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Let's elaborate a bit:

  1. Try to stay on topic. If you have a beef against the cow-fart(1) induced climate change and this post is about monkey spanking(2), then it's not the place to draw your sword(3).
    I have nothing against a freewheeling conversation, but if it's off-topic AND stupid or offensive, then it will have a badly limited lifespan.
  2. Consider the two following statements…
    • I'm totally open-minded when it comes to rational ideas.
    • It is quite obvious that Anti-Americanism, anti-Semitism, Islamism, Nationalism, Racism, Collectivism(4) and Multiculturalism (non-exhaustive list) exist in complete contradiction with Reason.
    … And guess the total amount of tolerance you can expect from me if you indulge in any of these.
  3. If you shall persist in these ways nevertheless, understand that I'm not spending countless hours of work on this site to "reach out", "debate" with you, "understand" your "root causes" or "learn" about your religion. Unlike race, ideology is something we choose, and for which we must bear all responsibilities. I loathe your sick mindset and what you defend and promote. I've heard all your pitiful excuses for your despicable totalitarian psyche and your compulsion to coerce or enslave your fellow men and women in the name of some "greater good".
    So understand that this is not a public forum: it is my outpost in the culture war you wage against me, my kin, my rights and my freedom — thus, you will only be tolerated here, and only if I decide so. I call the shots and I owe you nothing. As a matter of fact, I don't like having you around, so the only argument you're truly entitled to hear from me would come, if you insist, amplified through the barrel of my Sig-Sauer high powered rifle(5) — because when it comes to intolerant scumbags, I'm an intolerant bastard.
    So keep your distances, and nobody gets hurt.
  4. I also have a very limited patience for social-democrats of all race and creed, center-of-center jellyfish and buttermonkey(6) hybrids, Blame-America-First (and always) Libertarians (usually of the Rothbardian school), Hollywood idiots & Festival-de-Cannes cretins and those Parisians who fancy themselves as an elite when they are nothing but the developed world's rednecks(7). However, I tend to ignore them, so they may consider themselves lucky if they manage to draw some sarcasm in colorful language from me.
  5. Yeah, and don't get me started on journalists and the Wonderful World of Mainstream Media...
  6. American and British soldiers (including the Commonwealth) stand on a special pedestal in my personal pantheon. Disrespect them here, and you'll quickly wish you'd rather stand naked in Mecca during Hajj, wearing only a sign that reads "Muhammad was a pedophile".
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  1. Ha ha. Beef. Cow. Geddit?
  2. It's been known to happen.
  3. Neither is the guestbook by the way.
  4. That includes of course all its variations: Socialism, National-Socialist, Communism, Fascism, etc.
  5. With a loud 'Bang'
  6. Nope, don't know what species is that either, but it does sound like a particularly vile creature, doesn't it?
  7. Tell me London, New-York, Sydney or Tokyo, but Paris is a dump.
  8. Frequently in some sort of wine sauce or with loads of tears-pulling spices. Grapes and pepper count as veggie stuff right?

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"J'ai construit cet endroit. Ici, je fais les lois."

Élaborons un brin :

  1. Il existe une subtile différence entre "être familier" et "traiter familièrement". Cela signifie que les culs-sales qui s'imaginent débarquer ici et me tutoyer comme si nous avions gardé les piquets de grève ensemble verront leur contribution à la conversation éradiquée sans autre forme de procès. Quelle que soit la pertinence de ladite contribution. Même si vous n'êtes Vraiment Pas Content® avec ce que j'écris, cela ne vous dispense pas de surveiller vos manières : tant que je n'ai pas été présenté à votre chère Maman, nous nous vouvoierons. Vu ?
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    Je n'ai rien contre une conversation à bâtons rompus, mais si c'est hors-sujet ET stupide ou insultant, ça aura une durée de vie salement limitée.
  3. Considérez les deux affirmations suivantes...
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    • Il est évident qu' Anti-américanisme, anti-Sémitisme, Islamisme, Nationalisme, Racisme, Collectivisme(3) et Multiculturalisme (liste non-exhaustive) existent en complète contradiction avec la Raison.
    ... Et tâchez de devinez la dose totale de tolérance que vous pouvez attendre de moi si vous cédez à l'une de ces sirènes.
  4. Si vous deviez cependant persister dans ces voies, comprenez que je ne dépense pas un nombre incalculable d'heures de travail sur ce site pour vous "tendre la main", "débattre" avec vous, "comprendre" vos "causes profondes" ou "apprendre à connaitre" votre religion. Contrairement à la race, l'idéologie est le résultat de nos choix, et nous devons en supporter l'entière responsabilité. J'abhorre votre mentalité tarée, et ce que vous défendez et promouvez. J'ai entendu toutes vos pitoyables excuses pour votre détestable psyché de totalitaire et votre compulsion à forcer et réduire vos semblables en esclavage au nom d'un quelconque "intérêt général".
    Comprenez donc que ceci n'est pas un forum publique : c'est mon avant-poste dans la guerre culturelle que vous lancez contre moi, mes semblables, mes droits et ma liberté — vous ne serez que toléré ici, et seulement si je le décide. Je tire les ficelles, et ne vous doit rien. En fait je n'aime pas vous voir dans le coin, et en conséquence les seuls arguments de ma part auxquels vous puissiez réellement prétendre, si vous insistez, se transmettent par le canon de ma carabine de fort calibre Sig-Sauer(4) — Parce dès qu'ils s'agit d'ordures intolérantes, je suis un salaud d'intolérant.
    Alors gardez vos distances, et personne ne sera blessé.
  5. J'ai aussi un patience très limitée pour les sociaux-démocrates de toute confession et couleur, les centristes-du-centre fruits de l'union d'une méduse et d'un cul de singe, les Libertarés de l'École Rothbard conditionnés au "C'est la faute à l'Amérique, toujours et partout", Les Idiots d'Hollywood et les Crétins-de-Cannes, de même que ces parisiens qui se prennent pour une élite alors qu'ils ne sont que les bouseux du monde développé (5). J'ai cependant tendance à les ignorer, et ils peuvent donc s'estimer chanceux s'ils arrivent à me soutirer ne serait-ce qu'un sarcasme en langage fleuri.
  6. Ouais, et ne me lancez pas sur les journalistes et le Monde Merveilleux des Medias...
  7. Les soldats Américains et Britanniques (parmi lesquels j'inclue le Commonwealth) prennent place sur un piédestal particulier dans mon panthéon personnel. Manquez leur de respect ici, et vous souhaiterez rapidement vous trouver plutôt à la Mecque en période Hajj, tout nu avec seulement une pancarte autour du coup sur laquelle on puisse lire "Mahomet était un pédophile".
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  10. Oh, et si vous êtes végétarien, sachez que je chasse, tue, cuisine(6) et bouffe toutes sortes d'animaux, et que j'apprécie le tout sans aucune retenue. Soyez heureux avec vos carottes Docteur.
  1. C'est déjà arrivé.
  2. C'est aussi valable pour le Livre d'Or.
  3. Ce qui inclue aussi ses variantes : Socialisme, National-Socialisme, Communisme, Fascisme, etc.
  4. Avec un gros 'Bang'
  5. Londres, New-York, Sydney ou Tokyo, d'accord. Mais Paris, c'est un bled de cul-terreux.
  6. Généralement avec une sauce au vin, ou alors des poignées d'épices à t'arracher la tripaille. Le raisin et les piments, ça compte comme trucs de végétarien, non ?

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Comments | Commentaires

DSmith | 4 years, 9 months ago
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United States
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11/25 2003
08:36 PM

Oh, we understand.

I don’t think any American who lived through this will ever trust France again.  Even a little.  There is nothing but contempt here now for France.

France is seen as impotent, incompetent, immoral, and irrelevant.


Papertiger | 4 years, 9 months ago
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United States
11/26 2003
12:10 AM

Did we forget to wipe? What is left to do but flush?

Perhaps we could submit a UN referendum forbiding French banks from doing business with Kim Ill for their own good!


Gabriel Syme | 4 years, 9 months ago
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11/26 2003
06:52 AM

I will be there, I will. ;-)


the dissident frogman | 4 years, 9 months ago
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11/26 2003
07:03 AM
Comment 1054

I trust you will.

But will you be there to celebrate the event with emotion and dignity, or to roll dead drunk under the table, saturated with Chablis (or possibly one of those acceptable - sorry, I mean elegant - Australian Chardonnay) ?


Dishman | 4 years, 9 months ago
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11/26 2003
07:24 AM

In the US, we often have signs at public contruction projects (like highway improvements) saying “Your tax dollars at work”.

I think you might have some fun with “French tax dollars at work”.


Boogs | 4 years, 9 months ago
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11/26 2003
08:46 AM

Celebrating with emotion and rolling dead drunk under the table, are they so different? :)


Valerie, the other | 4 years, 9 months ago
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11/26 2003
08:48 AM

Would not miss that party for anything!  Keep us posted on when and where.  Let’s be sure to have a BBQ grill so we can burn the old passport.


lola | 4 years, 9 months ago
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11/26 2003
09:16 AM

Désolée d’être désagréable avec mon dissident favori! Les français “décents” comme vous dites, sont légion! Ils sont tout simplement pris en otage, désespérément, irrémédiablement? On a l’impression que vous oubliez sans cesse que ce gouvernement, comme les précédents depuis 20 ans d’ailleurs, est porté au pouvoir par la majorité des votes, non la majorité des citoyens. Que doit-on choisir quand on n’a pas le choix?


unclegalahad | 4 years, 9 months ago
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France
11/26 2003
02:51 PM

lola,

We - the decent French :-) - should admit that we are not given any choice in the elections (that is, we have no other option than pick among different varieties of socialism) because an overwhelming majority of citizens do not ask for anything else. Moreover, in the first round of the latest presidential elections, 1 out of 15 candidates could be described as a “classic” liberal : that’s not too many, for sure, but we could try something else, actually… if only we would. 3,91% of us did it.


Valerie | 4 years, 9 months ago
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11/27 2003
03:12 AM

Diss,

It’s Thanksgiving today, so thanks for all the dissidence.  As for your party, make it soon.  And count on me.  I’ll bring the chips and the dip.  :)


zek1917 | 4 years, 9 months ago
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11/27 2003
07:40 AM

Sans vouloir défendre Shirak et sa clique, gardons-nous de sombrer dans la naïveté ou la théorie du complot. Le Pakistan ne vaut pas mieux que l’Iran, et l’Arabie Saoudite pas mieux que la Corée du Nord. S’ils n’ont pas été inclus dans “l’axe du mal”, c’est parce que les US y ont des intérêts financiers solides.

D’ailleurs, la France fricote AUSSI avec ces deux pays.

Arrêtons un peu de déconner, business is business et ce n’est pas un dictateur qui empêchera une boîte d’investir dans un pays, qu’elle soit française ou américaine.

Cette campagne anti-française tourne simplement à l’hystérie. Shirak est immonde, OK, mais le Canada, la Russie, la Chine et l’Allemagne n’ont pas fait mieux par rapport à l’Irak. Alors pourquoi n’y a-t-il que les Français qui se font traiter d’animaux malfaisants, puants, débiles, etc.?


Papertiger | 4 years, 9 months ago
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11/27 2003
12:56 PM

3rd year in a row that France &ermany are in violation of EU standards for deficits. So instead of paying a fine they choose to ignore their own rules. At the same time they give grants to Lill Kim in RNK, and finance Iran’s nuclear ambitions.  This is the dreaded EU mega country to rival the US on the global scene?  It’s not just UN sanctions, resolutions, and obligations that France chooses to ignore.

This is almost good news. We were starting to think it was something personal.


TNAR | 4 years, 9 months ago
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11/27 2003
03:04 PM

“I promise a hell of a party the day I’ll finally get rid of my French passport and nationality. Should be fun. Be there.”

That is one party that will be an honor to attend if I am able to do so!  Immigrants very often make the best Americans, and I hope it is the US that the Dissident Frogman will choose to make home.


Macker | 4 years, 9 months ago
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11/28 2003
04:28 AM

Yes...and he can’t get here fast enough! Hurry up already!


Ms. Andi | 4 years, 9 months ago
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11/28 2003
11:09 AM

I’ll bring the Brisquette and the Elgin Sausage.

Your Texas Rose


Valerie, the other | 4 years, 9 months ago
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11/28 2003
11:11 AM

Ok, its agreed.  We all want the frogman to come to America.

Perhaps we should now start making donations to the alms box to back up our words.

DF, which would be most helpful?  Euros?  Dollars?


Damian Bennett | 4 years, 9 months ago
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United States
11/29 2003
09:15 AM

Although I hope Citizen DF chooses the United States as his destination, I am also saddened by a France so reprobate that her best and brightest are compelled to abandon her.

When Citizen DF leaves France that will leave France one less citizen to fight the good fight. France is being abandoned to the worst of her polity: nanny-state socialists and bureaucrats, unrepentant Stalinists, sulking Bonapartists, Islamofascists and anti-Semites, bigots and cagoules. How can such a stew cohere as a nation?

I too will toast DF, Citizen of the United States. I will hold high a flute of the magnificient Henriot Cuvée des Enchanteleurs, saluting the best from France with the best of France.

DGB


Jennifer | 4 years, 9 months ago
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United States
11/30 2003
07:56 AM

Frogman:

If you would like to immigrate to the United States then you can apply for the diversity visa (also known as the “green card lottery") if you haven’t already done so. There are 50,000 available each year and it’s pretty much “first come, first serve” to citizens of eligible countries...French citizens are eligible. The next open season will be October or November of 2004, so good luck if you intend to apply.

Yours truly,

Awaiting Frogman Tadpoles


fred | 4 years, 9 months ago
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France
12/01 2003
10:43 AM

Is a hard reality for us dear Frogman.

For me the France is a “a*****le” of terrorists and other ennemy of Usa and spirit of freedom .

Don’t forget and remember where are your friends and where are the heroes…

I know my friends and i know my ennemies , my friends don’t speak french ......

“ I promise a hell of a party the day I’ll finally get rid of my French passport and nationality. Should be fun. Be there.”

Please send me an invitation for your party , but me too i prepare a same thing.

@+ Fred


Nightfly | 4 years, 9 months ago
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12/01 2003
11:48 AM

Hi DF, sorry to hear that you may give up on France.  Home is home, after all, and I’m sure there’s much you’d miss.  But we’ll bring the beer for your welcome soiree Stateside.  Or perhaps you can persuade les authorities to outfit you upon your departure, like the prison wardens of old - new suit and twenty bucks.

Of course, your situation is more like a jailbreak than a parole, but they may be glad to be rid of you at last - poor saps.  In the meantime, enjoy London.


Jean Bart | 4 years, 8 months ago
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12/08 2003
06:28 PM

In 2002 Iraq accounted for accounted for 0.15% of our exports and 0.30% of our imports.  As far as food suppliers go, France ranked behind Australia in 2002, 13th to 8th respectively.  One US corporation between 1998-2002 did $100 million in business with Iraq; that corporation’s name is of course Haliburton.  Other US corporations did another $400 million in business with Iraq over the same time period.  In 2001, the US bought by itself ~40% of Iraq’s oil exports.  As far as debt issues are concerned, France is owed ~$1.8 billion, while the US is owed $2.1 billion.  The fact is that lots of countries had a very cozy relationship with Iraq over the years, including of course the US and France, and that your accusations are bit like the pot calling the kettle black.

Re: the other countries mentioned - the fact that French banks do business around the world is hardly surprising, nor should it be stopped.  The best way to liberalize - wow, capitalism, who would have thought of that; no one here apparently, you anti-capitalist goons - the world’s economies is by doing business with them, not by throwing up useless embargoes (e.g., Cuba).  The fact is that America has been more than willing to trade with and loan money to rather odious regimes - Romania, South Africa, and even the USSR - the fact that France does the same thing that the US has done historically and still does (China, the various “republics” of central Asia, Egypt, Jordan, etc.) and that you criticize and otherwise try to single out French actions without doing the same re: American actions again sounds like the pot calling the kettle black.

Dissident Frogman,

A word of advice from an American President, specifically George Washington; to paraphrase, don’t love another country more than your own.  BTW, I suggest that if you really want to become an American citizen, that you stop the pretense of being a Frenchman, give up your passport tommorrow and move to the US.  In other words, get some damn backbone and act on your beliefs.


the dissident frogman | 4 years, 8 months ago
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12/09 2003
02:15 PM
Comment 1072

#21:

I’m a bit busy shelving my socks at the moment and consequently have little time to spare for somebody than can pop out of nowhere, and brandish names and figures – that could as well come out of the front pocket of his kangaroo underwear, as far as we’re informed – hardly relevant to the problem at hand, just because he/she was too lazy to follow the link to the original story, read it, and – possibly the most important part of the process – actually understand the issue.

However, experience taught me that the like of yours hardly make the effort to press gently their mouse’s button, whenever their cursors pass over those funny bits of text in a different color and changes their shape to that of a cute little hand – we call it a “link” - not mentioning their natural apathy when it comes to assimilating the extraneous amount of information this apparently benign action usually brings forward.

To help in the process, I shall therefore paste below a digest of the aforementioned information – not that I have more sympathy for you than I had for the previous “Mr. Numbers Ready” that happened to hit these pages in the preceding months and miss the point just like you did, but I’m actually trying to save some time in dealing with future ones.

Bear with me, and no matter your, err, “interesting” obsession with pots and kettles (no, you don’t want to hear about that, trust me) you should be able to comprehend why French actions actually come singled out by the actions of the French alone.

You (should) already know the first paragraph – although I may be a bit optimistic in assuming that you actually read my post before waving your Fancy Figures of Unknown Origin – so let’s move on straight to the next:

“This type of financing is shared by Germany, France’s partner. German banks are North Korea’s biggest lenders, and Syria’s—and Libya’s. But France is the most active. In Castro’s sizzling gulag, French banks plunked down $549 million in the first trimester this year, a third of all credit to Cuba. The figure for Saddam’s Iraq is $415 million. But these pale in comparison with the $2.5 billion that French banks have lent Iran. The figures come from the Bank for International Settlements (BIS) in Basel, and were interpreted by Inigo More for a Madrid think-tank, the Real Instituto Elcano (realinstitutoelcano.org). As he says, “one could think that Parisian bankers wait for the U.S. to have an international problem before taking out their checkbooks.” French banks seem to be almost anywhere U.S. banks are absent. They lend in 57 such countries, and are the main lenders in 23 of those.”

And here is the link – again – just in case:http://www.stephenpollard.net/001303.html

I’ll leave you to your fancy figures in a minute so you can try to figure out what the Real Instituto Elcano (realinstitutoelcano.org) – and therefore my initial post – is really about, although with little hope that you understand the difference between the topic of my post and your ejaculating comment. But I shall add to help you that indeed, I wrote “pot”.

And you answered “kettle”. So much for pertinence.

On secondary points, I could add that if Cuba is still suffering under Castro’s reign, it’s more by the wealth of (mostly the) French loans and trade (since the fall of the Soviets) than despite the US embargo.

I could also add that you have a lot to learn about Capitalism and free market (start with rule of law and contracts) as well as pure coherence: if it’s okay in your book to trade with fishy regimes, then one fails to see why you’re blaming the US for doing so “historically”.

Once you’ll get over that self- contradiction of yours, you may start to understand a thing or two about real politics and therefore, you may very well see the difference of strategy between the USA and France, as far as these questions are concerned.

I’ll give you a hint: on the US side, it’s always about using the lesser of two evils to preserve freedom, restore it, and whenever possible extend it somewhere else – you may argue that the latter point was just a bonus until recently and you may argue that this wasn’t the best politics. I would answer that you could be right IF we were in the best of the worlds.

Wake up: we’re not.

I would therefore add that at least, this politic succeeded in restoring and preserving the West’s freedom, as well as what was possible for the rest of the world, despite the Soviet’s nuke threats, tanks at the borders and expansionism worlwide.

That was Communism yesterday, it’s Islamism today (and the putrid remains of Socialism to back it up).

Yet today the rules have changed.

Wake up: rules and circumstances do change sometimes. Therefore, I wouldn’t fail to add that since Afghanistan and Iraq, I can safely assume that extending freedom first and foremost became a priority. Wake up: whatever the old alliances, ‘uncomfortable’ or not, they’re being seriously reshaped.

And bad guys are starting to feel cold sweat.

Thank God, there are smarter people in any of the White House’s corridors than in the whole Palace of the Elysée and Quai d’Orsay. They understood that the world changed, they understood that our freedom cannot be preserved anymore without extending that of others. They understood that preserving ‘stability’ at the cost of liberty is not an option anymore simply because the worse and lesser evils can – or will – feed on each other, simply because both evils are the origins of the changes in circumstances and rules. They said it recently in London, in more inspiring words than mine. And they’ve been taking action.

Now where’s your kettle again I wonder?

One last thing, simply because it will serve the other “Mr. Suggest” that will come after you, as well: I assume from your paraphrased ‘American President advice’ that you must be one of those (crypto) Nationalists – you surely sound as one – who believe that one’s country is where one was born and that consequently, we shouldn’t love another country more than the one that fate, fortune, bad luck or Providence (pick your determinant of choice) assigns us at birth.

That makes you wrong on several counts, particularly – and that’s not the least of them – as far as America is concerned, since she is the living contradiction to your ill-judged paraphrase.

That’s actually one of the (certainly many) differences between you and George Washington: the great man had all reasons and facts to know the difference that can exist between the country where you’re simply born and the one you dream about, the one where you decide to walk, sail or fly one day, simply because that’s the one you love, the one you want to live for and the one you could die for.

He also figured out more clearly than you do, that in his day and age America loving Americans weren’t necessarily born there.

I have news for you, it’s been quite an earmark of this great nation ever since.

So the next time you feel like quoting a famous US President, try at least to understand him.

Anyway, I suggest that you take in consideration the fact that, even though I may make no mystery on this blog about my fondness for the US and my intentions as far as my nationality of choice is concerned for the coming decades, the how, why, when, my beliefs and my backbone are way beyond your concerns, underlying nationalism and advices, thank you very much.

The most faithful readers here can have a clear idea about the why but little concern for the rest. It’s fine by me if it’s fine by them.

Some others know a bit more; I call them “friends”.

Few of them know a lot more. I call them “close friends”.

It may come as a surprise, but I’m afraid you’re none of them.

So now is my turn to quote the great man, George Washington. Unlike you, I won’t dare to paraphrase him.

The advantage is that I will also avoid your regrettable error of interpretation, as far as his thoughts are concerned:

“Be courteous to all, but intimate with few, and let those few be well tried before you give them your confidence. True friendship is a plant of slow growth, and must undergo and withstand the shocks of adversity before it is entitled to the appellation.”

Unfortunately, I can’t compare to George Washington either and I shall therefore let you guess, at the reading of the final paragraph below, which part of his advice I’m stubbornly NOT following:

In any case, “BTW” and “in other words”, I suggest you stick your suggestions up the hole that’s at the smartest end of your anatomy, shake them swiftly and lengthily, and don’t stop until you can clearly see on the other end how little I care for them.

Yep, it’s not courteous.

Against all appearances, it’s not intimate either.


Ab213 | 4 years, 8 months ago
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Europe
12/10 2003
04:40 AM

Hello,

c un site trop genial je savais qu’il existait des gens dans ce pays capable de dire tout haut, ce que je dit tout haut et que tout le monde pense à voix basse!


philippe | 4 years, 8 months ago
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France
12/10 2003
07:03 AM

The DF wrote :

I’ll leave you to your fancy figures in a minute so you can try to figure out what the Real Instituto Elcano (realinstitutoelcano.org) – and therefore my initial post – is really about, although with little hope that you understand the difference between the topic of my post and your ejaculating comment.

Well I’ve read the elcano institute report. It says :

Although these figures could be interpreted as a sign of political antagonism, a fairer assessment of the lack of coincidence between French and US lending policy would probably point to France’s universal approach as opposed to the traditional isolationism of the US. At least, such is suggested by an overall analysis of the loans granted by French banks (US$ 1.1 trillion). Its main borrower in absolute terms is the United States, to whom it lends nearly a third of this amount. Among its top ten borrowers are six immediate neighbours. In relative terms, it is very noticeable that French banks provide 100% of the funds obtained by one country, Somalia.

Overall, France is the leading funder of 41 countries, mostly concentrated in Africa, where only Eritrea, Malawi, Saint Helena and Sierra Leone fall outside its ambit. As with Spain and the UK, the countries in which France occupies the leading position coincide with its main foreign-policy objectives, particularly la francophonie, which consists in bringing together its former colonies (plus some others) beneath the banner of the French language. It is very significant that of the 41 countries for which France is the leading lender, no fewer than 28 are members of the organisation. Paris is the leading lender to Africa and the Middle East, for which it provides 24% of the regions’ international private borrowing requirements.

On the other hand, it is noticeable that France is the leading lender for Japan, which absorbs 16% of French international private loans.

I’ll suggest you read it too, because you seem to miss the point.

You also wrote

The French idiots will be happy at the simple idea that their government, its state and private owned banks are lending millions of dollars to America’s foes.[...]The last square of decent and thoughtful French will feel nauseous at the idea that their hard earned money is distributed to the worse dictatorships on the face of this Earth,/i> , all this under the title State Terror Capitalists. You are certainly aware, as you’ve made the effort to press gently your mouse’s button, whenever your cursors pass over those funny bits of text in a different color and changes their shape to that of a cute little hand – we call it a “link”, that the report is about international private lending, not your tax money distributed by the Gvt.


philippe | 4 years, 8 months ago
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France
12/10 2003
07:06 AM

between 2 socks, you should enable html tags on your comments…


the dissident frogman | 4 years, 8 months ago
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Website
12/10 2003
07:34 AM
Comment 1076

“These sums make Paris the main supplier of international private finance to Shia ayatollahs, Saddam Hussein and the Cuban compañeros. (...)”

Sounds to me that my post is right on target.

“the report is about international private lending, not your tax money distributed by the Gvt.”

Exactly right. Which is why I wrote - as you quoted me - “it’s (...) private owned banks are lending millions of dollars to America’s foes.”

Now I stand by my decision to mention the French state (and its tentacular grips in the various half-private financial institutions) in the mix.

Just to amuse me between two socks, try to convince me that there is no collusion at all between both of them in this country. Try to convince me that the patterns emerging from this report are nothing but coincidental.

I can always use a good laugh.

(And oh, as for your suggestions on what I should do on my blog, I suggest you read the last paragraph of my previous comment. And shake it as well.)


josh | 4 years, 8 months ago
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United States
12/10 2003
10:36 AM

The USA may look good from across the Atlantic but we have our issues too.  Corporate fraud and the drug war are issues that aren’t even addressed over here.  I agree that we are fighting terror the right way, but when it comes to domestic issues, America is falling apart.


SparcVark | 4 years, 8 months ago
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United States
12/11 2003
01:43 PM

Come now, Josh.  Corporate fraud and the war on (selected) drugs are indeed issues, but you have to be quite disingenuous to suggest that they’re “not even addressed”.

Falling apart?  Let’s not play Chicken Little here.


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