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    • It is quite obvious that Anti-Americanism, anti-Semitism, Islamism, Nationalism, Racism, Collectivism(4) and Multiculturalism (non-exhaustive list) exist in complete contradiction with Reason.
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  4. I also have a very limited patience for social-democrats of all race and creed, center-of-center jellyfish and buttermonkey(6) hybrids, Blame-America-First (and always) Libertarians (usually of the Rothbardian school), Hollywood idiots & Festival-de-Cannes cretins and those Parisians who fancy themselves as an elite when they are nothing but the developed world's rednecks(7). However, I tend to ignore them, so they may consider themselves lucky if they manage to draw some sarcasm in colorful language from me.
  5. Yeah, and don't get me started on journalists and the Wonderful World of Mainstream Media...
  6. American and British soldiers (including the Commonwealth) stand on a special pedestal in my personal pantheon. Disrespect them here, and you'll quickly wish you'd rather stand naked in Mecca during Hajj, wearing only a sign that reads "Muhammad was a pedophile".
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  5. With a loud 'Bang'
  6. Nope, don't know what species is that either, but it does sound like a particularly vile creature, doesn't it?
  7. Tell me London, New-York, Sydney or Tokyo, but Paris is a dump.
  8. Frequently in some sort of wine sauce or with loads of tears-pulling spices. Grapes and pepper count as veggie stuff right?

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"J'ai construit cet endroit. Ici, je fais les lois."

Élaborons un brin :

  1. Il existe une subtile différence entre "être familier" et "traiter familièrement". Cela signifie que les culs-sales qui s'imaginent débarquer ici et me tutoyer comme si nous avions gardé les piquets de grève ensemble verront leur contribution à la conversation éradiquée sans autre forme de procès. Quelle que soit la pertinence de ladite contribution. Même si vous n'êtes Vraiment Pas Content® avec ce que j'écris, cela ne vous dispense pas de surveiller vos manières : tant que je n'ai pas été présenté à votre chère Maman, nous nous vouvoierons. Vu ?
  2. Évitez le hors-sujet. Si vous avez une rancune à l'égard de l'impact des pets de vache sur le changement climatique et que cet article traite de la fessée de macaque(1), alors ce n'est pas l'endroit d'où lancer votre croisade (2).
    Je n'ai rien contre une conversation à bâtons rompus, mais si c'est hors-sujet ET stupide ou insultant, ça aura une durée de vie salement limitée.
  3. Considérez les deux affirmations suivantes...
    • J'ai une ouverture d'esprit totale en ce qui concerne toutes idées rationnelles.
    • Il est évident qu' Anti-américanisme, anti-Sémitisme, Islamisme, Nationalisme, Racisme, Collectivisme(3) et Multiculturalisme (liste non-exhaustive) existent en complète contradiction avec la Raison.
    ... Et tâchez de devinez la dose totale de tolérance que vous pouvez attendre de moi si vous cédez à l'une de ces sirènes.
  4. Si vous deviez cependant persister dans ces voies, comprenez que je ne dépense pas un nombre incalculable d'heures de travail sur ce site pour vous "tendre la main", "débattre" avec vous, "comprendre" vos "causes profondes" ou "apprendre à connaitre" votre religion. Contrairement à la race, l'idéologie est le résultat de nos choix, et nous devons en supporter l'entière responsabilité. J'abhorre votre mentalité tarée, et ce que vous défendez et promouvez. J'ai entendu toutes vos pitoyables excuses pour votre détestable psyché de totalitaire et votre compulsion à forcer et réduire vos semblables en esclavage au nom d'un quelconque "intérêt général".
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    Alors gardez vos distances, et personne ne sera blessé.
  5. J'ai aussi un patience très limitée pour les sociaux-démocrates de toute confession et couleur, les centristes-du-centre fruits de l'union d'une méduse et d'un cul de singe, les Libertarés de l'École Rothbard conditionnés au "C'est la faute à l'Amérique, toujours et partout", Les Idiots d'Hollywood et les Crétins-de-Cannes, de même que ces parisiens qui se prennent pour une élite alors qu'ils ne sont que les bouseux du monde développé (5). J'ai cependant tendance à les ignorer, et ils peuvent donc s'estimer chanceux s'ils arrivent à me soutirer ne serait-ce qu'un sarcasme en langage fleuri.
  6. Ouais, et ne me lancez pas sur les journalistes et le Monde Merveilleux des Medias...
  7. Les soldats Américains et Britanniques (parmi lesquels j'inclue le Commonwealth) prennent place sur un piédestal particulier dans mon panthéon personnel. Manquez leur de respect ici, et vous souhaiterez rapidement vous trouver plutôt à la Mecque en période Hajj, tout nu avec seulement une pancarte autour du coup sur laquelle on puisse lire "Mahomet était un pédophile".
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  10. Oh, et si vous êtes végétarien, sachez que je chasse, tue, cuisine(6) et bouffe toutes sortes d'animaux, et que j'apprécie le tout sans aucune retenue. Soyez heureux avec vos carottes Docteur.
  1. C'est déjà arrivé.
  2. C'est aussi valable pour le Livre d'Or.
  3. Ce qui inclue aussi ses variantes : Socialisme, National-Socialisme, Communisme, Fascisme, etc.
  4. Avec un gros 'Bang'
  5. Londres, New-York, Sydney ou Tokyo, d'accord. Mais Paris, c'est un bled de cul-terreux.
  6. Généralement avec une sauce au vin, ou alors des poignées d'épices à t'arracher la tripaille. Le raisin et les piments, ça compte comme trucs de végétarien, non ?

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  1. Nope, don't know what species is that either, but it does sound like a particularly vile creature, doesn't it?
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Comments | Commentaires

Val | 5 years, 3 months ago
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09/17 2003
02:51 PM

HA HA HA!  Hee, hee, hee.....oh, my.  My ribs hurt from laughing so hard.  Must now go forth to purchase vast quantities of non-french wine so as to drown out the image of Christine Amanpoop in latex anything.  Yiii!

Her pathetic statements are like the last gasps of a drowing person.  CNN has lost all validity and it knows it.  That she/they are stoopng to this tactic just reveals how desperate they are.

DF, you are the best in the West!


ForNow | 5 years, 3 months ago
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09/17 2003
07:42 PM

One wonders whether Amanpour was hoping to bury the memory of what Eason Jordan said about CNN in “The awful news CNN had to keep to itself” in the International Herald Tribune April 12, 2003 The New York Times, or what Frank Foer said in “Air War - How Saddam Manipulates the U.S. Media” originally in The New Republic Oct. 28, 2002. And just as Amanpour is trying to block out CNN’s record (&arhaps its continued kowtowing to other dictators like Castro), along come tthe really damning observations made by John F. Burns of The New York Times, who filed so many excellent stories from Iraq, in an interview “John Burns: ‘There Is Corruption in Our Business’” in Editor &ublisherSept. 15, 2003.

From Burns’s remarks:

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Yeah, it was an absolutely disgraceful performance. CNN’s Eason Jordan’s op-ed piece in New York Timesmissed that point completely. The point is not whether we protect the people who work for us by not disclosing the terrible things they tell us. Of course we do. But the people who work for us are only one thousandth of one percent of the people of Iraq. So why not tell the story of the other people of Iraq? It doesn’t preclude you from telling about terror. Of murder on a mass scale just because you won’t talk about how your driver’s brother was murdered.

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Another excerpt:

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There is corruption in our business. We need to get back to basics. This war should be studied and talked about. In the run up to this war, to my mind, there was a gross abdication of responsibility. You have to be ready to listen to whispers.


ForNow | 5 years, 3 months ago
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09/17 2003
07:46 PM

Sorry, messed up on one of the URLs

The awful news CNN had to keep to itself” by Eason Jordan, The International Herald Tribune, April 12, 2003, also in The New York Times


Tom | 5 years, 3 months ago
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09/18 2003
03:02 AM

Yes, Amanpour’s “muzzled” claim is ridiculous, even outrageous, especially in light of Eason Jordan’s mea culpa. And yet I did find this overlooked paragraph in John Burns’s now famous piece:

“So we had moved to the Palestine Hotel, but the TV networks were still filing from the information ministry because they were not allowed to file from anywhere else. Which is why CNN got expelled. They refused to go on filing from there; they used a videophone to file their stories on the first heavy night of bombing on March 21. They were caught with a videophone and they were expelled by dawn.”

What network did you guys watch during the war, anyway? I watched mostly CNN, having determined it to be much more reliable than the BBC, MSNBC and TV5 (of Francosphere--France and what few vassals it still has left). Fox isn’t available here in Thailand, but it wouldn’t have made a difference—we’re talking “reliability” here.

Okay, okay, we all know CNN isn’t perfectly reliable, either, even before Jordan. (The network to this day still frequently airs “reports” direct from Iranian, Vietnamese and Chinese propaganda bureaus in its “World Report” program.) But hasn’t CNN become too easy a target for all blames by all factions on earth?

And into whose hand is this playing. The America-bashers would love nothing more than to establish CNN as “biased”. Do they care that CNN’s Iraq bureau was actually biassedagainst America? Hell, no. Here’s what they think: CNN is biased; CNN is American, therefore Americans are biased, brainwashed, sinister, stupid, manipulative, manipulated… just invitingthe terrorists, really.

That said, here’s a note fore Amanpour: While there is naturally a pressure for CNN to be pro-American from its US peers and viewers, that’s more than offset by the raucous and, as in Iraq, violent “world opinion” on the other side. If Amanpour doesn’t know that, perhaps it’s because she indentifies herself with the wrongheaded latter.


lionel | 5 years, 3 months ago
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09/18 2003
04:20 AM

Peut etre une coincidence, mais depuis quelques semaines maintenant, FOXNews n’est plus disponible sur TPS.

FOXNews a peut etre simplement changer de satelite de diffusion. Mais il se peut aussi que TPS ai decider de ne plus diffuser cet chaine via son terminal, et si c’est le cas, je me demande bien pourquoi ? Censure ?


ForNow | 5 years, 3 months ago
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09/18 2003
09:42 AM

Some interesting points. Still, I think the America-bashers wouldn’t cast accusations of a CNN anti-American bias asaccusations of a CNN pro-American bias. On the other hand, I’m in Queens, New York, so maybe I overestimate the intellectual honesty of America-bashers in Europe. Still, I think they’d instead express astonishment that CNN gets accused of being insufficiently pro-American, they’d take it as a sign of the “extremism” of the Americans who make those accusations. (How excessively relative these things seem, until one considers “centers of gravity” like freedom &ecurity.) It’s also true that CNN’s behavior, as you point out, has not been without merit, though the merit came late.

Though I use high-speed cable access to the ’Net, I don’t bother getting cable TV. So I watched the broadcast channels, which often (though certainly not 24/7) broadcast the Fox, CBS, NBC, &BC feed. The famous day (late at night here in NYC) of Andrew Gilligan’s mistaken denial that there was any evidence that the Americans had reached Baghdad’s center or even entered the city, I was watching BBC &kyNews over the Internet. I ended up watching SkyNews for its periodic feeds from FoxNews, as I noticed that the BBC seemed unable to find the Americans whom I saw on Fox via SkyNews. (An account of BBC’s reporting is in “Bizarro Broadcasting Company” by Denis Boyles,Duck Season, April 7, 2003 &ow at http://www.NationalReview.com/nr_comment/nr_comment072903.asp.


Randal Robinson | 5 years, 3 months ago
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09/18 2003
11:09 AM

DF, thanks for linking to my Top 10 Ways Fox News Intimidated CNN.  You da frog.  I’ve already begun making dinner plansfor our upcoming war with France and you’re invited.  Bring the dessert.

Randal Robinson


kawaclope | 5 years, 3 months ago
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09/19 2003
08:05 AM

Cher Dissident

Vous êtes le meilleur !

Vous faites définitivement parties des gagnants. Waw, comme j’aimerais que vous soyiez mon ami, je pourrais fièrement vous exhiber en disant “regardez comme il est bien mon pote”.

“Au royaume des aveugles, les borgnes sont rois”, disait l’autre

“Aux Etats-Unis, Bush est président”, moi je dis

(Ca va, j’ai bien respecté toutes les conditions d’expression ? Boa, j’suis con , la censure, de nos jours, ça n’existe plus ...hein !)


JFM | 5 years, 3 months ago
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09/19 2003
08:13 AM

Cher kawaclope

Et en France, Chirac est président.  Que les cris du bébé irakien a qui le régime que TU AS SOUTENU a arraché un oeil pour faire parler son père ne t’empêchent ni de dormir, ni de remplir ton réservoir chez Total-Fina.


JFM | 5 years, 3 months ago
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09/19 2003
10:16 AM

Ni de te frotter les mains quand tes actions TOTAL montent.


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