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DISCLAIMER: in my experience, the following doesn't apply to 99% of my readership. Unfortunately, experience also shows it has to be written down for the remaining 1%.

The short version, when it comes to my comments policy, goes down to a line taken from the (mediocre) second opus of the Matrix:

"I built this place. Down here, I make the rules."

Let's elaborate a bit:

  1. Try to stay on topic. If you have a beef against the cow-fart(1) induced climate change and this post is about monkey spanking(2), then it's not the place to draw your sword(3).
    I have nothing against a freewheeling conversation, but if it's off-topic AND stupid or offensive, then it will have a badly limited lifespan.
  2. Consider the two following statements…
    • I'm totally open-minded when it comes to rational ideas.
    • It is quite obvious that Anti-Americanism, anti-Semitism, Islamism, Nationalism, Racism, Collectivism(4) and Multiculturalism (non-exhaustive list) exist in complete contradiction with Reason.
    … And guess the total amount of tolerance you can expect from me if you indulge in any of these.
  3. If you shall persist in these ways nevertheless, understand that I'm not spending countless hours of work on this site to "reach out", "debate" with you, "understand" your "root causes" or "learn" about your religion. Unlike race, ideology is something we choose, and for which we must bear all responsibilities. I loathe your sick mindset and what you defend and promote. I've heard all your pitiful excuses for your despicable totalitarian psyche and your compulsion to coerce or enslave your fellow men and women in the name of some "greater good".
    So understand that this is not a public forum: it is my outpost in the culture war you wage against me, my kin, my rights and my freedom — thus, you will only be tolerated here, and only if I decide so. I call the shots and I owe you nothing. As a matter of fact, I don't like having you around, so the only argument you're truly entitled to hear from me would come, if you insist, amplified through the barrel of my Sig-Sauer high powered rifle(5) — because when it comes to intolerant scumbags, I'm an intolerant bastard.
    So keep your distances, and nobody gets hurt.
  4. I also have a very limited patience for social-democrats of all race and creed, center-of-center jellyfish and buttermonkey(6) hybrids, Blame-America-First (and always) Libertarians (usually of the Rothbardian school), Hollywood idiots & Festival-de-Cannes cretins and those Parisians who fancy themselves as an elite when they are nothing but the developed world's rednecks(7). However, I tend to ignore them, so they may consider themselves lucky if they manage to draw some sarcasm in colorful language from me.
  5. Yeah, and don't get me started on journalists and the Wonderful World of Mainstream Media...
  6. American and British soldiers (including the Commonwealth) stand on a special pedestal in my personal pantheon. Disrespect them here, and you'll quickly wish you'd rather stand naked in Mecca during Hajj, wearing only a sign that reads "Muhammad was a pedophile".
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  1. Ha ha. Beef. Cow. Geddit?
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  3. Neither is the guestbook by the way.
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  5. With a loud 'Bang'
  6. Nope, don't know what species is that either, but it does sound like a particularly vile creature, doesn't it?
  7. Tell me London, New-York, Sydney or Tokyo, but Paris is a dump.
  8. Frequently in some sort of wine sauce or with loads of tears-pulling spices. Grapes and pepper count as veggie stuff right?

AVERTISSEMENT : selon mon expérience, ce qui suit ne s'applique pas à 99% de mes lecteurs. Malheureusement, l'expérience prouve aussi qu'il faut que cela soit écrit pour le pourcentage restant.

La version courte, concernant ma politique pour les commentaires, se résume à une ligne tirée du second (médiocre) volet de Matrix:

"J'ai construit cet endroit. Ici, je fais les lois."

Élaborons un brin :

  1. Il existe une subtile différence entre "être familier" et "traiter familièrement". Cela signifie que les culs-sales qui s'imaginent débarquer ici et me tutoyer comme si nous avions gardé les piquets de grève ensemble verront leur contribution à la conversation éradiquée sans autre forme de procès. Quelle que soit la pertinence de ladite contribution. Même si vous n'êtes Vraiment Pas Content® avec ce que j'écris, cela ne vous dispense pas de surveiller vos manières : tant que je n'ai pas été présenté à votre chère Maman, nous nous vouvoierons. Vu ?
  2. Évitez le hors-sujet. Si vous avez une rancune à l'égard de l'impact des pets de vache sur le changement climatique et que cet article traite de la fessée de macaque(1), alors ce n'est pas l'endroit d'où lancer votre croisade (2).
    Je n'ai rien contre une conversation à bâtons rompus, mais si c'est hors-sujet ET stupide ou insultant, ça aura une durée de vie salement limitée.
  3. Considérez les deux affirmations suivantes...
    • J'ai une ouverture d'esprit totale en ce qui concerne toutes idées rationnelles.
    • Il est évident qu' Anti-américanisme, anti-Sémitisme, Islamisme, Nationalisme, Racisme, Collectivisme(3) et Multiculturalisme (liste non-exhaustive) existent en complète contradiction avec la Raison.
    ... Et tâchez de devinez la dose totale de tolérance que vous pouvez attendre de moi si vous cédez à l'une de ces sirènes.
  4. Si vous deviez cependant persister dans ces voies, comprenez que je ne dépense pas un nombre incalculable d'heures de travail sur ce site pour vous "tendre la main", "débattre" avec vous, "comprendre" vos "causes profondes" ou "apprendre à connaitre" votre religion. Contrairement à la race, l'idéologie est le résultat de nos choix, et nous devons en supporter l'entière responsabilité. J'abhorre votre mentalité tarée, et ce que vous défendez et promouvez. J'ai entendu toutes vos pitoyables excuses pour votre détestable psyché de totalitaire et votre compulsion à forcer et réduire vos semblables en esclavage au nom d'un quelconque "intérêt général".
    Comprenez donc que ceci n'est pas un forum publique : c'est mon avant-poste dans la guerre culturelle que vous lancez contre moi, mes semblables, mes droits et ma liberté — vous ne serez que toléré ici, et seulement si je le décide. Je tire les ficelles, et ne vous doit rien. En fait je n'aime pas vous voir dans le coin, et en conséquence les seuls arguments de ma part auxquels vous puissiez réellement prétendre, si vous insistez, se transmettent par le canon de ma carabine de fort calibre Sig-Sauer(4) — Parce dès qu'ils s'agit d'ordures intolérantes, je suis un salaud d'intolérant.
    Alors gardez vos distances, et personne ne sera blessé.
  5. J'ai aussi un patience très limitée pour les sociaux-démocrates de toute confession et couleur, les centristes-du-centre fruits de l'union d'une méduse et d'un cul de singe, les Libertarés de l'École Rothbard conditionnés au "C'est la faute à l'Amérique, toujours et partout", Les Idiots d'Hollywood et les Crétins-de-Cannes, de même que ces parisiens qui se prennent pour une élite alors qu'ils ne sont que les bouseux du monde développé (5). J'ai cependant tendance à les ignorer, et ils peuvent donc s'estimer chanceux s'ils arrivent à me soutirer ne serait-ce qu'un sarcasme en langage fleuri.
  6. Ouais, et ne me lancez pas sur les journalistes et le Monde Merveilleux des Medias...
  7. Les soldats Américains et Britanniques (parmi lesquels j'inclue le Commonwealth) prennent place sur un piédestal particulier dans mon panthéon personnel. Manquez leur de respect ici, et vous souhaiterez rapidement vous trouver plutôt à la Mecque en période Hajj, tout nu avec seulement une pancarte autour du coup sur laquelle on puisse lire "Mahomet était un pédophile".
  8. Je peux modérer, supprimer ou éditer quoi que ce soit, sans fournir d'excuses ni d'explications. Cela n'a rien à voir avec de la “censure”, pour une raison très simple : je ne suis pas un État, vous n'êtes pas un citoyen opprimé dudit État et demeurez donc libre de vous exprimer sur votre propre support et par vos propres moyens. Commenter n'est pas un droit, c'est un privilège que j'accorde ou refuse selon mon droit de propriétaire des lieux.
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  10. Oh, et si vous êtes végétarien, sachez que je chasse, tue, cuisine(6) et bouffe toutes sortes d'animaux, et que j'apprécie le tout sans aucune retenue. Soyez heureux avec vos carottes Docteur.
  1. C'est déjà arrivé.
  2. C'est aussi valable pour le Livre d'Or.
  3. Ce qui inclue aussi ses variantes : Socialisme, National-Socialisme, Communisme, Fascisme, etc.
  4. Avec un gros 'Bang'
  5. Londres, New-York, Sydney ou Tokyo, d'accord. Mais Paris, c'est un bled de cul-terreux.
  6. Généralement avec une sauce au vin, ou alors des poignées d'épices à t'arracher la tripaille. Le raisin et les piments, ça compte comme trucs de végétarien, non ?

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  1. Nope, don't know what species is that either, but it does sound like a particularly vile creature, doesn't it?
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Comments | Commentaires

| 5 years, 5 months ago
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Canada
06/06 2003
09:35 PM

un coup partie allez sucer tout les bon républicains qui pense comme vous


| 5 years, 5 months ago
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France
06/07 2003
04:33 AM

Shame to France. Shame to France leading the pro-saddam coalition. Shame to France, last to meet Arafat at Ramallah.

Thanks a lot for your blog.

Michel (Paris).


Valerie | 5 years, 5 months ago
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France
06/07 2003
05:42 AM

Diss,

Again.  Bravo.

Saddam’s regime was a WMD.  All dictators’ regimes are WMD.

Valerie


AC | 5 years, 5 months ago
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France
06/07 2003
05:32 PM

Dictators of the world, be afraid of the divine justice. Let’s invade all Countries ruled by dictatorship...Agh, wait, who’s going to invade USA and France in that case ?

...Morons....


the dissident frogman | 5 years, 5 months ago
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06/07 2003
06:09 PM
Comment 134

Interesting:

#1: a Quebecois who could score at least 2 misspellings on a 13 words sentence and suggest I should“suck republicans who think like me”.

#4: a cybernoide from France who was able to spell more than 5 words in English, including “morons”.

In both case, the selfish, unrepentant and aggressive reaction to this banner is tragically revelatory of their moral vileness and is indeed a confirmation about the only option that’s left for these people.

Carry on gentlemen, carry on.

And many thanks for making my point, once again.


Watcher | 5 years, 5 months ago
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06/08 2003
09:06 AM

AC… indeed, just who would invade the USA? Let’s put aside your cretinous argument that the United States is some sort of dictatorship… who on the planet has an army even capable of invading us?

As for France… their invasion seems to be taking placefrom within.


Chris J. | 5 years, 5 months ago
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06/08 2003
07:44 PM

“There are kids, women and men who won’t end up buried dead or alive in the depths of mass graves.

For that, and just for that, this war was right.

As for the rest, I don’t mind.”

Agree 100%!! I was not very much in favor of going into Iraq at first, for many reasons. However, as I learn of the attrocities the Iraqi people endured, while we just sat back and did nothing, I’m ashamed we didn’t act sooner.

Love this ‘blog btw. I try and pop in and read it when I can.

I’m very concerned about France and the stranglehold the unions have on the country. I hope you keep getting the word out to other blogs so we can be informed. Perhaps some pressure can be brought to bear, just by the publicity, that could help things out.

If there is something people can do to help, please let us know. I hate watching France slowly commit suicide. I’d like to help, if there’s anything that anyone can think of that would be helpful.  (I’m in the US, btw.)

Since it seems that a minority of people in France are causing problems for the majority, why not use the Net to connect the French citizens who *are* fed up with what’s going on? You could exchange ideas and plot strategy about taking back your country.

Thanks for such an informative blog,

Chris J.


jerseycityjoan | 5 years, 5 months ago
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06/09 2003
03:56 AM

We know now that the U.S. and U.K. did the right thing.

We don’t know—and may not know for a long time—if we invaded Iraq for the right reason.

But the important thing for all concerned is that we did the right thing, thank God!


Pierre | 5 years, 5 months ago
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06/09 2003
08:22 AM

N’oublions pas que quoi qu’il arrive ensuite en Irak, aujourd’hui, demain ou dans dix ans, il y a un tyran assassin et un régime violent en moins. Il y a des enfants, des femmes et des hommes qui ne finiront pas inhumés morts ou vifs dans les tréfonds d’une fosse commune. Pour cela, et pour cela seulement, cette guerre était juste.

Le reste m’est égal.


Good conclusion, it is certainly THE POINT on which pro-war and ant-war (like me) could agree. as well about Valeri"s commnt : “

Saddam’s regime was a WMD. All dictators’ regimes are WMD.


Although I still do not agree with this war I can bring you here another positive result : Saddam’s supported terrorist actions in Israel by important financial rewards to kamikazes families. Without this support, hopefully more Palestinians will support a peacefull solution (if possible).

I stop here praising the “rival side” and carry on with a few questions :

All about Saddam was already known during FIRST GULF WAR (You remember ? this with some little Frenchies here and there ?) WHY HELL this war was stopped half a way ? WHY HELL did we abandon l Kurdes and Chiites we called for insurection against Saddam ?

We placed Iraq under control and sanctions which just limited his military capacities but let him free to kill massivly his own people DURING 12 YEARS. Why ???

I Cannot understand the American diplomatic action to get support on this war. They insisted about these famous WMD with some obvious lies and false documents and claming that whatever would be the (lack of) support. they would go at it. So crazy that it looks like the American government did not wish this support. Why ??

like jerseycityjoan, I don’t know anything about the REAL REASONS but can’t prevent to think about simple Géo-polytic. America does not need this oil but Europe, Asia and Africa does. Then, who rules in Iraq have a powerfull leverage on word economy.

Now let’s hope that the real work necessary to make this war profitable for Iraqi will be done.

Let’s hope success to this roadmap to peace between Israel and Palestine

Should just one of these difficult task be performed, then, I will not tell that I am wrong (impossible) but for the least… change my mind.

PS : Dissident Frogman, je me tape le cul parterre et la tête contre les murs en lisant les 99% de ce que tu ecris. Il reste néamoins 1% de chose que j’approuve et un site très bien foutu. Professionnellement, Bravo.

@12c4

Pierre


safdsaf | 5 years, 5 months ago
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06/09 2003
08:53 PM

You NEED to make this stuff into .gif files!  I could get it out so much easier then…


Demosthenes | 5 years, 5 months ago
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06/10 2003
02:34 PM

Dissident Frogman:

Excellent blog.  I’ve never been here before - but I can assure you that I’ll return.

Pierre, mistakes were definitely made during and immediately following the first Gulf War.  I don’t know what happened - lack of conviction on our part, perhaps, or maybe just an effort to show the world that we weren’t trying to take over.  Either way, it was a bad decision - and good that we’re cleaning it up.

2 other things:  Anyone who thinks the United States is a dictatorship has clearly never lived under one, and has never lived in the US.  Clearly.  Don’t cheapen the suffering, pain, and real oppression of others by making ridiculous comparisons.

Republicans who think like you...And we need more of you...and to echo another wonderful blogger, anyone who still opposes this war supports Saddam and excuses all of his atrocities - and there is no excuse.  This war has already been justified - with or without WMDs.


the dissident frogman | 5 years, 5 months ago
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06/10 2003
03:47 PM
Comment 141

Demosthenes:

mistakes were definitely made during and immediately following the first Gulf War. I don’t know what happened - lack of conviction on our part, perhaps, or maybe just an effort to show the world that we weren’t trying to take over.

Well in fact it’s probably more“the need to preserve the stability - whatever that means - of the region, particularly for the sake of another autocracy: Saudi Arabia”

But that’s something the average pathologically anti-American frog boy can’t understand - and won’t even try to, actually.

It’s all aboutOilas you know, and Bush is behind 9/11 with the Mossad…

Either way, it was a bad decision

Agreed, a hundred percent.

But then again, there aresomecountries in this world that admit and fix their mistakes.

And there are those that persevere: see Chirac’s statement at the G8.

Anyone who thinks the United States is a dictatorship has clearly never lived under one and has never lived in the US. Clearly. Don’t cheapen the suffering, pain, and real oppression of others by making ridiculous comparisons.

Correct. And that’s also the reason why they’ve been supporting Saddam and will support any other freak after him(the Kim Jun Il Fan Club must be already painting the signboards), as far the USA are involved in the crisis.

It’s a cheap shot and one of which they’ll never have to take the responsibility.

I bet you know already that we agree on your last point. ;-)

Valerie:Thanks for dropping by. It’s always a pleasure to have you and your acumen in the dacha.

Chris:Thanks for caring about France, that’s a lesson some should definitely learn better…

That said, France is getting what she deserve and she’s digging her own hole by herself.

Don’t be too prompt to forget how they treated you because they keep acting the same albeit a bit more quietly, considering that they’re too busy right now with the struggle to maintain their privileges and the holidays coming…


Demosthenes | 5 years, 5 months ago
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06/11 2003
09:34 AM

Well in fact it’s probably more “the need to preserve the stability - whatever that means - of the region, particularly for the sake of another autocracy: Saudi Arabia”

Sure.  But misguided all the same...and I don’t know about you, but to me, the phrase “stability in the middle east” is one very large oxymoron.  And hopefully, our leaders here are noticing that the Saudis arenotour friends.

The US has most definitely made mistakes and bad foreign policy decisions.  I’m just relieved that we’re fixing this one.  I don’t know how much you follow the news from over here, but - believe it or not - there are many (what I like to call) pro-Saddam activists who argued thatthe fact that we are at least partly to blame for Saddam’s control of Iraq was a reason not to do anything.No joke.  That’s the kind of twisted logic that our left uses.

Are there more people like you over there?  I’m sure you know that “France” is a very bad word over here just at the moment - which really is too bad.

Maybe we can go back to liking each other again someday…


the dissident frogman | 5 years, 5 months ago
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06/11 2003
09:46 AM
Comment 143

I don’t know about you, but to me, the phrase “stability in the middle east” is one very large oxymoron

He he… Agreed. Hence my “whatever that means”.

That’s the kind of twisted logic that our left uses.

That’s the left’s logic as a whole. The left is an international plague that knows no boundaries and no frontier.

I’ve heard hundreds of nonsense that basically meant “Saddam shouldn’t be removed because Kim Jung Il is not”.

Are there more people like you over there?

Very few I’m afraid. And most - if not all - intend to get the hell out of here and let this sorry country sink into whatever Socialist tyranny the French are actively building for themselves.


John Candler | 5 years, 5 months ago
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United States
06/11 2003
10:55 AM

I will spread around the word about your blog.

Excellent all the way.


Thomas P | 5 years, 5 months ago
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United States
06/13 2003
11:11 AM

You have a very awesome banner.  Shocking and to the point.

Thank you.


zaza | 5 years, 5 months ago
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Italy
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06/20 2003
10:16 AM

Bravo! brilliant work, very beautiful and moving. And absolutely spot on.

Thanks for making it available, I just stuck that on my blog too.

The last photo was my favourite of all those from Iraq.


Steve White | 5 years, 5 months ago
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United States
06/21 2003
02:07 PM

Frogman, a superb banner. I don’t run a blog so I downloaded the independent version and will send it to liberal friends of mine.

Valierie wrote: “Saddam was a WMD.” That’s the most succinct way of expressing our reasons for this year that I’ve yet heard, and with your permission I will borrow that too.


zogman | 5 years, 4 months ago
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07/01 2003
11:43 AM

The ends do not justify the means.  A Lie is a Lie, Frogman, at least it was for Clinton, wasn’t it, so apply your self-serving morality evenly and fairly, for once!


Kim Scarborough | 5 years, 4 months ago
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07/01 2003
12:28 PM

What a great banner. I can’t believe somebody actually made something that would make me consider putting Flash on my site…

If you have time, you should consider making a printable version (yes, I know it would lose something)… I’d love to put it on my office door.


HS | 5 years, 4 months ago
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United States
07/21 2003
09:51 AM

According to the Iraq Body Count website, the WAC (weapons of the allied coalition) have “Collateral(ly) Damage(d),” at minimum, 6071 civilians of a nation of the “Axis.” Why?  In order to eliminate WMD?  Perhaps the answer lies in the ideology of the TDF website.  Total Fascist Domination.


the dissident frogman | 5 years, 4 months ago
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07/21 2003
10:48 AM
Comment 151

#21: It’s getting boring really… At one point, dismissing logic and reason like you do is so close to utter dumbness that one fails to discern the difference.

It should be easy to understand though. If you want to play with numbers, play with all of them:

- How many Iraqis were killed by Saddam and its regime?

- How many Iraqis would have been killed if Saddam wasn’t removed?

- How long would have have Saddam’s reign of terror lasted, without the right action from the Coalition, resulting in how many Iraqis killed, without any hope for an end to the nightmare, whatsoever?

You’re not going to face these questions and numbers of course. People like you never do.

Guess who’s on the side of fascism?


Caroline | 5 years, 3 months ago
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Australia
08/11 2003
11:32 PM

The war was right, but spare a thought for the international world order that is now in shambles because of it.  The intentions were noble, but consider the license it gives to less benevolent states who can now point to precedent to launch an attack based on their own, classified intelligence.

The uproar over WMDs is because the proof of their existence now will retroactively rally the universal support the US, UK and Australia should have gotten before entering the conflict, making the war a legitimate, legal affair in accordance with the world order we once enjoyed.  The absence of WMDs gives the thumbs-up to every nation considering a pre-emptive strike “justified” by whatever excuse they care to dream up.

I believe the war was justified.  But I still don’t support it because the world is not ready to face the consequences of the new world order that is a free-for-all for each and every nation.  The horrors of Saddam’s regime pale in comparison to an international arena with our new rules - I’m sorry for all the innocents sacrificed (pre and post-war) just for a world where billions more now are unprotected.


Albert Lucas | 4 years, 9 months ago
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United States
02/17 2004
06:31 PM

Patience et longueur de temps font plus que force ni que rage...[ la fontaine ]

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Now you know and the whole world knows how wrong the USA /Brit were with their administration about Iraq, and France with Germany were right. SADAM HUSSEN is nothing compared to the devastation created by this gang [Bush &o.] around the world.

The United states became a disgrace to the eyes of the rest of the world thanks to this unqualified unelected President and administration may I add.

I am going to stop right here because there is nothing good to say about this President, and I am tired and sick to read and hear about it.  It’s a shame when i think of the consequences emanating from this small group of men at the white house , In only 3 years they ruined the reputation and the economy of the country.

Now I wait for November the election day..

A bon entendeur salut....

Albert Lucas february 17, 2004


the dissident frogman | 4 years, 9 months ago
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02/18 2004
01:20 AM
Comment 154

Jesus, Albert “la Fontaine"… You must be living in the illusion of a dream from another dimension.

Or just be French maybe?

I’m sorry but this blog does not provide tinfoil hats for the loonies of your kind. I suggest you step back into the Real World, where you will notice the liberation of Iraq, the sudden change of stance of a bunch of rogues states and, who knows, maybe even the soaring economy of the country that’s supposed to be ruined (at least in your dream).

It’s beginning to be quite urgent: you’re already unable to discern between dictators such as Saddam Hussein and the elected rulers of the free world. Soon the only option will be to shoot you down, like a wounded horse.

As for November… Yeah, I’m waiting too. Hehe.


Carlos Torres | 4 years, 8 months ago
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Portugal
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03/17 2004
05:53 AM

Portugal (or England, who knows?), surely will be the next target as its government and a small group of braves had the courage of crying loudly against the totalitarian Islamic fundamentalists. Maybe the fuck-them-all sheiks, axaxins and ayatolahs want to cause a good impression into the portuguese Socialist, the Green and the Comunist Parties, to instruct them to claim for a complete withdraw from Irak of our 100 republican guards that went there.

No matter the time when they will act and murder more innocent civilians, we will go ahead with this front anti-Jihad, and no doubt about this: WE NEVER SURRENDER!!!

In the meanwhile just a few words to tell you how we totally approve your articles and admire the lucidity you express on your pages.

My web site anti-Jihad is now linking to you (in portuguese).http://www.alternativa2000.org/Contraoterrorislamico.htmlGreetings

Carlos Torres

Lisbon, Portugal


Dylan | 4 years, 7 months ago
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United States
03/29 2004
10:04 PM

I find it absolutely hilarious that the US is taking oil. Not only has Halliburton lost millions of dollars in Iraq, but my gas prices are now at record highs. Did you guys read about those sweet oil deals the UN, France, Germany, Russia, and even some in the UK were getting?

http://brain-terminal.com/articles/world/iraqi-oil-bribes.htmlhttp://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20040128-094014-7323r.htmhttp://abcnews.go.com/sections/WNT/Investigation/saddam_oil_vouchers_040129.htmlhttp://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110004667

Elf Octane, a French government oil company has the largest contracts with Iraq. Who was acting in oil interest? Who was acting against terror? The French think with their pocketbooks and genitals.

I love the Nazi-Bush comparisons. Bush attempts to remove a Hitleresque leader and he’s a facist, absolutely hilarious. I think he’s coming out with his policy speech to erradicate all Jews this coming week.

No WMD’s? It was hard enough to find these things:http://snopes.com/photos/military/sandplanes.asp

Iraq is free. Something the left cannot stand. They don’t care about the people, they care about the humiliation of America. Why? Well we saved their ass...to tell you the truth, I can’t think of a time where France saved our ass. (Don’t bring up the revolution, because the French did next to nothing.)

I love your site. Whenever I talk about the French I cringe. Perhaps an articulate Frenchman such as yourself could help me realize there are rare breeds of intelectuals in France. Thank you. I promise never to say that all the French are stinky again!

Adios, (Screw off, I live next to Mexico)

Dylan


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