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| Engineer-Poet | 4 years, 8 months ago | |
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Agreement with all posters thus far. I think that this also calls for recognition of some inconvenient facts: 1. Islamic terrorism comes largely from the Wahhab school of thought. 2. Wahhabism is spread by networks of madrassas and other “outreach” programs. 3. These are paid for by the government of Saudi Arabia and private donations, all financed by oil revenues. 4. These oil revenues come from us; ultimately, we are paying to spread the hate and buy the bombs which are directed at us. If we really want to hurt the Islamists, we need to bankrupt them. This starts with buying less oil from them. It is time that we recognize that someone who uses more than they need, or uses petroleum when something else would do, is giving aid and comfort to the enemy. |
| Engineer-Poet | 4 years, 8 months ago | |
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Pardon je pour écrire seulement en anglais. Mon Français est très pauvre. DissidentFrogman wrote: >That 4 points demonstration of yours seems rather simplistic, >but I imagine that was the poet speaking here, not the engineer. One does not always have either the time or the space to fully support every point one might like to make. I apologize for anything which might have been lost in the abridgement. >Saudi Arabia is not the only oil supplier. A point well-understood by others. For some years the Saudis have been the world’s swing producer, but this situation does not have to be permanent. Some have already posted on the idea that sufficient oversupply of oil will allow the world to say to the Saudis, “We don’t need you”. When excess world capacity equals Saudi pumping rate, that day will have arrived. The point I would like everyone to understand is that this day arrives sooner with every barrel of demand reduced, and later with every barrel of demand increased. It is a simple 1/1 ratio. >Pakinstan comes to mind as far as militant Islam is concerned Follow that one step further. What is one of the most powerful promoters of militant Islam in Pakistan? It is the system of madrassas which have almost replaced the secular schools. Who pays for the madrassas and indoctrinates the teachers? The Wahhabists; specifically, the Saudis. >I don’t believe that switching our V8 powered wonders for humble bicycles to save on our oil purchases will help us in any way. There I believe you are wrong. A V8 engine is almost wholly dependent on petroleum. But what are most V8 engines used for? Very few of them labor at nearly full power for long periods. Most V8 engines, and even most 6 and 4 cylinder engines, spend most of their time loafing at a small fraction of their peak power. Many spend a lot of their operating time at idle. This idling is very inefficient. Batteries are actually a better source of power for short bursts, and electric motors are efficient, light and powerful. If you would like to see an example of what is possible near the limits of today’s technology (and R&D prices!) seehttp://www.acpropulsion.com. I’ve read that the average efficiency of American gasoline-fuelled vehicles (conversion of fuel to work) is 17%. Multiple measurements on different types of vehicles give numbers which agree with this to a surprising degree. It is not very hard to make huge improvements when you are starting from a situation as poor as 17% efficiency. This is known as “low-hanging fruit”, easy to pick. I live in the USA, so I have spent more time studying US facts and figures than any others. (Pardon my parochial interests, but when the rest of the world concerns itself with my country’s consumptive habits, why shouldn’t I also?) It is a fact that the US consumption of motor gasoline is nearly equal to Saudi Arabia’s entire production of crude oil: seehttp://www.eia.doe.gov/pub/oil_gas/petroleum/data_publications/petroleum_supply_annual/psa_volume1/ current/txt/table_02.txt for the most recent figures available. It follows from this that a large movement in the USA from V8 engines to hybrid vehicles could severely reduce the worldwide market for crude oil, and move up the day that Saudi Arabia changes from essential supplier to disposable nuisance. >To precipitate this regime change from outside - and in addition >to the political example of democratic society that the Coalition >is helping to build in Iraq - finding alternative sources of oil >and *viable* energy alternatives would help a lot indeed. This may surprise you, but I have reason to believe that these viable energy sources are right under our noses. The problem is that few people have the educated insight to see them for what they are; most only see them the way they have always been seen. A century or so ago the best evening light came from liquid drawn from the heads of a rapidly-shrinking population of one species of whale. Kerosene (paraffin) replaced spermaceti for most uses a short time afterward, and it was itself supplanted by glowing filaments of carbon heated by electricity. Carbon was replaced by tungsten (wolfram), and now the thermal spectrum of tungsten is being replaced by the glow of sodium vapor in large lamps and the emissions of phosphors under the bombardment of ultraviolet photons in smaller lamps. Some lighting is going completely solid-state, to LEDs. If we are going to advance, we have to open our minds to the advantages of change. Science and technology have opened doors since our last major shift. We must select the correct door and take ourselves into the future. I do not just include the USA in this. Spain has its own part to play, as does France. Spain has just received a powerful reminder of the cost of giving money and power to murderers. France may receive its own soon. It is time (actually it is ten years past time) to take action, on the economic end as well as the military. Remember that the Islamofascists cannot spread their ideology nearly so well if their home countries are hungry and broke. >(And oh, please, let’s not forget that “alternative” means that it >costs the same, and offers the same output....) I have reason to believe that the cost of one of the MOST radical “alternatives” is getting very close to the current retail price of gasoline in California; better yet, developments moving into pilot production could slash the price within the next few years. I hope to be able to dig into this later, with facts and figures. I intend to support and explore these points elsewhere. Feel free to write me or take a look at my blog: http://ergosphere.blogspot.com;I will attempt to answer counter-arguments as my time permits. |
| the dissident frogman | 4 years, 8 months ago | |
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>>Pardon je pour écrire seulement en anglais. No need to apologize, I have absolutely no problem with that, on the contrary. After all, French is mostly used for abusive (and quickly deleted) comments down here. I noticed you dismissed the poet and introduced the engineer, and thank you for a very informative comment. However, I’m afraid I stand by my point as far as your initial equation is concerned: I found nothing in your argument to back up your demonstration - that I would summarize roughly as “no oil = end of Islamist terrorism” (I don’t suggest your equation is so blunt. It could be of course, any kind of variation: “no oil”, or “less oil” or “from a different source” or even “bankrupt the Saudi” equals “decisive blow to Islamism” or “victory is near”) I’m not an engineer myself, so I may enter a mine field here, but still, I’ll have a go on the topic. The V8 bit was mostly an image, yet I understand it might not have been a proper one, since you seem to take it literally. My point was (is) that scaling down our activity is not the good thing to do, particularly in the current context. I would be the first to see particular interest in high capacity batteries. Really. Not particularly for cars (because there is something with the gasoline engine that cannot be purported by other alternatives: any driving nut such as myself can tell you that there is a lot more to it than just the efficiency factor – but I digress.) That our current car engines still have room for improvement, as you noted, is actually nothing new or surprising. Last time I looked, this is precisely what is happening since the beginning of this blessed invention (which was itself already an improvement over the previous means of transport and sources of energy). Improvement. Better engines, etc. That was indeed the reason why I wrote “Our current state of technology doesn’t allow us to give up on “their” oil yet.” And emphasized on “yet”. I learned quite interesting facts thank to your comment, but you apparently failed to provide the viable alternatives I was err, “demanding” – Instead, you’re still talking about a prospective future. How close it can be is actually of little importance: I never argued that it won’t happen or that we shouldn’t pursue these goals. We are, and we will reach them (Unless you involuntarily made my point, I guess we’re in fact right on the same track, judging by your paragraph on the successive stages of lightning fuel). You have reason to believe that these viable energy sources are right under our noses? I’d say we’re already using some of them (let’s not forget about our nuclear reactors, which already helped us a lot to become more independent – and far less polluting - from Middle East thugs such as the Saudi) and I guess the other are actually a bit farther than our nose. Maybe say, right after the next turn. In short, we’re going there and the day we could say “FY” to the Princes of the Desert (as well as “behave, or else…”) is coming closer. My point is: it’s too early yet, and since we need to keep on going at fast pace, we shall not starve our V8s. Guess what? I have reasons to believe that the Saudi KNOW we don’t have any alternative ready right here, right know. Check this if you please:http://www.americanthinker.com/articles.php?article_id=3410(actually a very important read for every American voter, if I may) Back to what made me feel uncomfortable with your equation. I believe you misunderstood the reason why I mentioned Pakistan. You seem to hold a grudge against the Madrassas (and God knows I won’t blame you for that), but at the end of the day, there are two reasons why I don’t believe they’re so much of a concern: first, these are only indoctrination centers, not weapon factories or military bases. We have to keep an eye on them, but there’s nothing here out of the reach of any decent police forces and secret services. (And death squads too, if they start wearing explosive jackets and heading towards the next bus stop or train station.) Next, the “students” are eventually nothing more than a ragtag good enough for Djihad. They can claim success against a dying Soviet army, but that’s just about everything they can do. They’re cannon fodder, no matter how expensive – or not – their training was for the Saudi princes. At worse, they will reach our cities, like they did in New York (I don’t think they could try the planes again) in Bali or in Madrid (that’s more of a concern, but again, I imagine that with some serious work and international cooperation, they could be traced and eliminated fairly easily) So yes, the Saud are funding Madrassas in Pakistan (again, not really big news for this frogman), but that was not the reason why I mentioned Pakistan. Nuke plans, remember? We’re talking about state terrorism (I have a hard time believing that Musharraf “didn’t know”). Pakistan has little concern about the quantity of gas Americans are pouring in their SUVs. We could add North Korea – same story, with a record of state terrorism abroad. And we could notice that Pakistan’s expertise in nuclear came from China. Also, it seems that Iran is quite in the news with nuclear handiwork lately. We won’t stop these people simply by cutting down our oil orders to the Saud. If you allow me this little irony: No it’s really not about Oil! At least, it’s not that simple. |
| IXLNXS | 4 years, 8 months ago | |
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Aren’t most of the Spanish protestors carrying signs asking for “Peace”, and accusing their leaders of “Lying”? We seem to have alot in commen. |
| Engineer-Poet | 4 years, 8 months ago | |
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Dissident Frogman wrote: >The V8 bit was mostly an image, yet I understand it might not have been >a proper one, since you seem to take it literally. The V8 is actually an icon of the USA, both inside and outside the USA. The joke going around these days shows an M1 Abrams tank pointing its turret gun at some ragged person, who is smiling back at it and asking “Does that thing have a hemi?" (Note for non-Americans: the Chrysler 426 Hemi, named for its hemispherical combustion chambers, is one of the classic muscle-car engines of all time.) As you are a dissident frogman, I am an iconclastic American. I believe that this icon no longer serves any useful purpose, and it should be allowed to retire to the museums and classic car shows. Our roads, and the roads of the rest of the world, should belong to technology that’s both better for us and worse for our declared enemies. >My point was (is) that scaling down our activity is not the good thing >to do, particularly in the current context. I did not mean to imply that anything should be scaled down, save perhaps the height of some of the enormous vehicles coming out of Detroit. (Did I mention that I, personally, develop products for Detroit?) What we (the USA first, perhaps you too?) need to do is start making different trade-offs. Economy and safety should start being higher priorities than speed and power (though with hybrid technology you have the paradox of bigger batteries giving you MORE power at the same time you have GREATER economy), and we should recognize that economy is also a contributor to safety in the form of security for Western civilization. >That was indeed the reason why I wrote “Our current state of technology >doesn’t allow us to give up on “their” oil yet.” >And emphasized on “yet”. >I learned quite interesting facts thank to your comment, but you apparently >failed to provide the viable alternatives I was err, “demanding” ... You may find this in my latest Blog entry “Is the tide turning?”: http://ergosphere.blogspot.com/(I truncated the long URL, so if you are reading this long after March 2004, look for the March 2004 archives). If you do not find what you are looking for, use the mail link provided on my page. >You have reason to believe that these viable energy sources are right under >our noses? I’d say we’re already using some of them (let’s not forget about >our nuclear reactors, which already helped us a lot to become more >independent – and far less polluting - from Middle East thugs such as the >Saudi) and I guess the other are actually a bit farther than our nose. That is not a bad point, but nuclear power is mostly used to generate electricity; nuclear power tends to replace coal, not oil. Most forms of transport (cars, trucks/lorries, buses) cannot use electricity; they can use exactly one type of liquid fuel, and almost all of it comes from crude oil. This is actually an easy thing to change, but we have to demand change. >So yes, the Saud are funding Madrassas in Pakistan (again, not really big >news for this frogman), but that was not the reason why I mentioned Pakistan. >Nuke plans, remember? After I wrote my first response above, I learned that Gal Luft and Anne Korin (of the Institute for the Analysis of Global Security, www.iags.org) claim that Saudi money had a lot to do with Pakistan’s nukes. They make the claim here: http://www.commentarymagazine.com/article.asp?aid=11703028_1.Read the whole thing. >We won’t stop these people simply by cutting down our oil orders to the Saud. I never said we would. Reducing the demand for oil (by any means, whether greater efficiency or displacement by other sources of energy) is another front in the war, not the only front. Are you familiar with the war against Japan in 1941-45? The battles that got the press were fought by soldiers carrying guns, but the war was won by submarines which sank the Japanese freighters carrying raw materials to the homeland. Long before the war ended, the Japanese had no fuel for their trainer airplanes, and they could not train new fighter pilots. They could not make war materiel and get it to the front, so the Allied soldiers were coming against an enemy with poor arms and little food. If we want to be successful in this war, we have to stop feeding the enemy. |
| Yamaneko | 4 years, 8 months ago | |
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Last I checked, Iran and Russia are major oil exporters. Petrodollars buy nukes. Take the Americans out of the market, and it gets harder to buy nukes. |
| Engineer-Poet | 4 years, 8 months ago | |
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>I’m always weary of people who claim that the solution for the better (and, for that >matter, the “common good") goes through the suppression of “useless relics of the > past”. First, it usually ends in a ghastly way, and next, this is not how progress works. Sometimes the suppression comes as a consequence of other forces that we all agree to be for the better. For instance: 1.) Steam-engine train locomotives are museum pieces and historical curiosities. They are too slow, not powerful enough, require too many fuel/water stops and pollute too much to be acceptable for modern rail transport. They were everywhere a mere 60 years ago, but today they have been completely replaced by diesel, diesel-electric or even all-electric traction. This replacement happened despite the greater cost of diesel fuel versus coal and the cost required for electrifying rail routes. 2.) Vacuum-tube electronics have been almost entirely replaced by transistors, the exceptions being some high-end audiophile gear (curiosities) and certain categories which 50 years ago did not exist as consumer items (microwave ovens). 3.) Flat-head, side-valve automobile engines are relics, not produced for many years. They lost too much energy as heat and did not breathe well enough to produce the power/weight desired by consumers. An overhead-valve engine is bulkier, has more parts and costs more, but today they have the entire automotive market. 4.) Pollution regulations have eliminated the sale of new 2-stroke motorcycles (and their emissions of unburned fuel and oil) from the USA. Some of these changes happened over a very short time, yet few people really cared all that much. The catalytic converter caused another gas pump marked “Unleaded” to appear for a while, but now that’s all there is; the air is a lot cleaner as a consequence, and cars are still cars. We have other changes coming, due in part to government incentives to purchase hybrid cars. Toyota Prius buyers sit on a waiting list measured in months, and Ford just licensed Toyota’s technology. >engineering is good. Engineering society is not. The USA currently spends about USD 50 billion (that is 5e10 dollars in scientific notation) per year to protect the Middle East oil-trade routes alone. Total spending on defense needs related to oil or Arab military threats was a much larger part of our defense budget, roughly half of USD 360 billion - and that was before the USD 87 billion requested for the first year of the Iraq affair. The USA uses about 110 billion gallons of motor gasoline per year, plus about half that much “distillate fuel oil” which fuels diesels. If the defense costs related to oil were charged directly to motor fuel, the pump price of fuel in the USA would roughly double. Speaking as an American who knows Americans, if motor gasoline cost $3.00 to $3.50 per gallon there would not be many people wanting to buy Hemi-powered trucks for driving to work. Had this change occurred ten years ago there would be many more people already driving cars like the Prius and there would already be many different models using such technology. You would not need government diktat to achieve this end. All you would have to do is charge the costs to the goods which produce those costs, and let people choose freely between the alternatives. (I have been saying this for ten years. Just because nobody wants to listen does not mean it is not true. ;-) Let me reverse that argument: we have been indulging in social engineering for many years, using subsidy of petroleum consumption with our tax and defense policies. These subsidies have resulted in great problems, including despotic regimes which sponsor terrorism. It is time to change these policies, remove the subsidies and force the necessary adjustments to begin. |
| the dissident frogman | 4 years, 8 months ago | |
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Post title: Terror? No ♠ Terreur ? Non
Date: 11th March, 2004