Weapon of Mass Acclamation • Arme d'Acclamation Massive

Fired from France by the dissident frogman

The international Left and France have been so wrong about Iraq that their only option left is to carry on. « ÉVIAN-LES-BAINS, France, June 3 -- (...) President Jacques Chirac of France, who met with President Bush on Monday in an effort to repair their fractured relationship, repeated his opinion that the war was "illegitimate and illegal." Speaking to reporters as the three-day meeting in this French spa town wound down, Mr. Chirac said, "I didn't approve of it and I still don't approve of it." » Well of course you don't. Mr. Chirac and most of France alongside the international Left were so wrong on just about everything and they went so far to demonstrate it that there is no way they will ever admit this war was righteous. There is no way they will ever acknowledge that, possibly more than Afghanistan, this battle of Iraq in the long war against terrorism is the first positive and constructive action counterpoising the nihilist abomination of 9/11. And now that all their murky warnings, sibylline threats, vulgar propaganda, false solutions to a real crisis, open opposition and clandestine underhandedness were exposed for what they are and proved -- at best -- to be vain, now that their champion, the Butcher of Baghdad, fell from his throne in less than three weeks and crawled under a rock, they frenetically fall back to whatever argument they can think about in order to maintain the illusory validity of their position. Looting among the rubble of an argumentation built on sand, they lean against the last wall that sketchily stand up, the one on which is written a cryptic acronym that reads WMD. Psyching themselves up at the idea of firing their last bullet to make their point, the people supposedly outraged at the one year long American "rush" to war, the people who, after 12 years of diplomatic hide and seek game still wanted to give more time to the UN inspectors, this very people starts asking, hardly two months after the fall of Saddam's bloody regime, "Where are the weapons of mass destruction?" Once again, they're feverishly lying in wait for a trip of the Coalition. And once again, they're despising and ignoring the Iraqi people suffering and his legitimate yearning for liberation. • The endless duplicity of the same noxious crowd impelled me to create this new Flash banner "No WMD? WDM", a gloomy and (sadly) unavoidable echo of another banner I created almost 4 months ago in the same spirit and emphasizing on the same point, "The price of their peace". Like the previous one, I'm offering this banner freely to anybody wishing to display or distribute it. Just help yourself: Download a zip archive containing the Flash movie and instructions on how to publish it on a website. Download a self-playing executable to pass along to your friends using MS Windows. Download a self-playing clip for the same purpose but for the Macintosh users. This should be piece of cake for the veterans of the price of peace banner but in any case, if you need help or guidance, drop me a mail. • I hope this banner will help, even modestly, to set the focus back on what's always been a major aspect of this crisis and, should you decide to help by spreading it, I wish to sincerely thank you. Let's not forget that whatever happens next in Iraq, be it today, tomorrow or in ten years, there's a murderous tyrant and a violent régime down. There are kids, women and men who won't end up buried dead or alive in the depths of mass graves. For that, and just for that, this war was right. As for the rest, I don't mind.

La gauche internationale et la France ont eu tellement tort concernant l'Iraq, que la seule option qui leur reste est de continuer. « ÉVIAN-LES-BAINS, France, 3 juin -- (...) Le Président français Jacques Chirac, qui a rencontré le Président Bush lundi pour s'efforcer de réduire la fracture de leurs relations, a réitéré son opinion selon laquelle la guerre était "illégitime et illégale." S'adressant aux reporters alors que le meeting dans cette ville thermale française touchait à sa fin, M. Chirac a déclaré, "Je ne l'approuvais pas et ne l'approuve toujours pas" » Evidemment que non. M. Chirac, la majeure partie de la France et la gauche internationale ont eu tellement tort sur pratiquement tous les points et ils sont allés si loin pour le démontrer qu'ils ne peuvent en aucune manière reconnaître que cette guerre était juste. Il ne peuvent en aucune manière admettre que, plus encore peut-être que l'Afghanistan, cette bataille d'Irak dans la longue guerre contre le terrorisme est la première action positive et constructive à même de contrebalancer l'abomination nihiliste du 11 septembre. Et maintenant que tous leurs ténébreux avertissements, menaces sibyllines, propagande grossière, fausses solutions à une vraie crise, opposition ouverte et magouilles en sous-main ont été exposés pour ce qu'ils sont et se sont révélés -- pour le moins -- vains, maintenant que leur champion, le Boucher de Bagdad, est tombé de son trône en moins de trois semaines pour ramper sous une roche, ils s'en remettent frénétiquement au premier argument auquel ils puissent penser pour maintenir la validité illusoire de leur prise de position. Pillant les débris d'une argumentation construite sur du sable, ils s'adossent au dernier mur tenant vaguement debout, celui sur lequel figure un cryptique acronyme, WMD, Armes de destruction massive. Réprimant mal leur enthousiasme à l'idée de tirer la dernière cartouche de leur argumentaire, les individus soi-disant outragés par la "course" américaine à la guerre, longue de plus d'un an, les individus qui, après 12 ans de cache-cache diplomatique tenaient toujours à donner plus de temps aux inspecteurs, ces individus là commencent déjà à demander, deux mois à peine après la chute du régime sanglant de Saddam Hussein, "Où sont les armes de destruction massive ?" Une fois de plus, ils sont fiévreusement à l'affût d'un faux pas de la Coalition. Et une fois de plus, ils méprisent et ignorent les souffrances du peuple irakien et son légitime désir de libération. • La sempiternelle duplicité des mêmes multitudes malfaisantes m'a poussé à créer cette nouvelle bannière Flash "No WMD? WDM", tel un lugubre et malheureusement inévitable écho d'une autre bannière que j'avais créé il y a déjà quatre mois de cela, dans le même esprit et insistant sur le même aspect des choses, "The price of their peace". Comme la précédente, j'offre cette bannière librement à quiconque souhaite l'afficher ou la distribuer. Alors servez vous : Téléchargez une archive zip contenant le clip Flash et les instructions pour le publier sur un site web. Téléchargez un exécutable autonome pour le distribuer à vos relations utilisant MS Windows. Téléchargez en un autre du même type mais pour les utilisateurs Macintosh. Cela devrait être une promenade de santé pour les vétérans de la bannière the price of peace mais juste au cas où, balancez moi un email si vous avez besoin d'aide ou d'indications. • Je souhaite que cette bannière puisse, même modestement, remettre un peu les choses en place quand à un aspect majeur de cette crise et, dussiez vous décider de m'y aider en la distribuant, je vous en remercie sincèrement. N'oublions pas que quoi qu'il arrive ensuite en Irak, aujourd'hui, demain ou dans dix ans, il y a un tyran assassin et un régime violent en moins. Il y a des enfants, des femmes et des hommes qui ne finiront pas inhumés morts ou vifs dans les tréfonds d'une fosse commune. Pour cela, et pour cela seulement, cette guerre était juste. Le reste m'est égal.

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Posted by: Anonymous | June 7, 2003 04:35 AM

Shame to France. Shame to France leading the pro-saddam coalition. Shame to France, last to meet Arafat at Ramallah.

Thanks a lot for your blog.

Michel (Paris).

Posted by: Anonymous | June 7, 2003 11:33 AM

Diss,

Again. Bravo.

Saddam's regime was a WMD. All dictators' regimes are WMD.

Valerie

Posted by: Valerie | June 7, 2003 12:42 PM

Dictators of the world, be afraid of the divine justice. Let's invade all Countries ruled by dictatorship...Agh, wait, who's going to invade USA and France in that case ?
...Morons....

Posted by: AC | June 8, 2003 12:32 AM

Interesting:

#1: a Quebecois who could score at least 2 misspellings on a 13 words sentence and suggest I should "suck republicans who think like me".

#4: a cybernoide from France who was able to spell more than 5 words in English, including "morons".

In both case, the selfish, unrepentant and aggressive reaction to this banner is tragically revelatory of their moral vileness and is indeed a confirmation about the only option that’s left for these people.

Carry on gentlemen, carry on.

And many thanks for making my point, once again.

Posted by: the dissident frogman | June 8, 2003 01:09 AM

AC... indeed, just who would invade the USA? Let's put aside your cretinous argument that the United States is some sort of dictatorship... who on the planet has an army even capable of invading us?

As for France... their invasion seems to be taking place from within.

Posted by: Watcher | June 8, 2003 04:05 PM

"There are kids, women and men who won't end up buried dead or alive in the depths of mass graves.
For that, and just for that, this war was right.
As for the rest, I don't mind."

Agree 100%!! I was not very much in favor of going into Iraq at first, for many reasons. However, as I learn of the attrocities the Iraqi people endured, while we just sat back and did nothing, I'm ashamed we didn't act sooner.

Love this 'blog btw. I try and pop in and read it when I can.

I'm very concerned about France and the stranglehold the unions have on the country. I hope you keep getting the word out to other blogs so we can be informed. Perhaps some pressure can be brought to bear, just by the publicity, that could help things out.

If there is something people can do to help, please let us know. I hate watching France slowly commit suicide. I'd like to help, if there's anything that anyone can think of that would be helpful. (I'm in the US, btw.)

Since it seems that a minority of people in France are causing problems for the majority, why not use the Net to connect the French citizens who *are* fed up with what's going on? You could exchange ideas and plot strategy about taking back your country.

Thanks for such an informative blog,
Chris J.

Posted by: Chris J. | June 9, 2003 02:44 AM

We know now that the U.S. and U.K. did the right thing.

We don't know -- and may not know for a long time -- if we invaded Iraq for the right reason.

But the important thing for all concerned is that we did the right thing, thank God!

Posted by: jerseycityjoan | June 9, 2003 10:56 AM

N'oublions pas que quoi qu'il arrive ensuite en Irak, aujourd'hui, demain ou dans dix ans, il y a un tyran assassin et un régime violent en moins. Il y a des enfants, des femmes et des hommes qui ne finiront pas inhumés morts ou vifs dans les tréfonds d'une fosse commune. Pour cela, et pour cela seulement, cette guerre était juste. Le reste m'est égal.

Good conclusion, it is certainly THE POINT on which pro-war and ant-war (like me) could agree. as well about Valeri"s commnt : "

Saddam's regime was a WMD. All dictators' regimes are WMD.

Although I still do not agree with this war I can bring you here another positive result : Saddam's supported terrorist actions in Israel by important financial rewards to kamikazes families. Without this support, hopefully more Palestinians will support a peacefull solution (if possible).

I stop here praising the "rival side" and carry on with a few questions :

All about Saddam was already known during FIRST GULF WAR (You remember ? this with some little Frenchies here and there ?) WHY HELL this war was stopped half a way ? WHY HELL did we abandon l Kurdes and Chiites we called for insurection against Saddam ?

We placed Iraq under control and sanctions which just limited his military capacities but let him free to kill massivly his own people DURING 12 YEARS. Why ???

I Cannot understand the American diplomatic action to get support on this war. They insisted about these famous WMD with some obvious lies and false documents and claming that whatever would be the (lack of) support. they would go at it. So crazy that it looks like the American government did not wish this support. Why ??

like jerseycityjoan, I don't know anything about the REAL REASONS but can't prevent to think about simple Géo-polytic. America does not need this oil but Europe, Asia and Africa does. Then, who rules in Iraq have a powerfull leverage on word economy.

Now let's hope that the real work necessary to make this war profitable for Iraqi will be done.
Let's hope success to this roadmap to peace between Israel and Palestine

Should just one of these difficult task be performed, then, I will not tell that I am wrong (impossible) but for the least... change my mind.

PS : Dissident Frogman, je me tape le cul parterre et la tête contre les murs en lisant les 99% de ce que tu ecris. Il reste néamoins 1% de chose que j'approuve et un site très bien foutu. Professionnellement, Bravo.

@12c4
Pierre

Posted by: Pierre | June 9, 2003 03:22 PM

You NEED to make this stuff into .gif files! I could get it out so much easier then...

Posted by: safdsaf | June 10, 2003 03:53 AM

Dissident Frogman:
Excellent blog. I've never been here before - but I can assure you that I'll return.

Pierre, mistakes were definitely made during and immediately following the first Gulf War. I don't know what happened - lack of conviction on our part, perhaps, or maybe just an effort to show the world that we weren't trying to take over. Either way, it was a bad decision - and good that we're cleaning it up.

2 other things: Anyone who thinks the United States is a dictatorship has clearly never lived under one, and has never lived in the US. Clearly. Don't cheapen the suffering, pain, and real oppression of others by making ridiculous comparisons.

Republicans who think like you...
And we need more of you...and to echo another wonderful blogger, anyone who still opposes this war supports Saddam and excuses all of his atrocities - and there is no excuse. This war has already been justified - with or without WMDs.

Posted by: Demosthenes | June 10, 2003 09:33 PM

Demosthenes:

mistakes were definitely made during and immediately following the first Gulf War. I don't know what happened - lack of conviction on our part, perhaps, or maybe just an effort to show the world that we weren't trying to take over.

Well in fact it's probably more "the need to preserve the stability - whatever that means - of the region, particularly for the sake of another autocracy: Saudi Arabia"

But that's something the average pathologically anti-American frog boy can't understand - and won't even try to, actually.
It's all about Oil as you know, and Bush is behind 9/11 with the Mossad...

Either way, it was a bad decision

Agreed, a hundred percent.
But then again, there are some countries in this world that admit and fix their mistakes.

And there are those that persevere: see Chirac's statement at the G8.

Anyone who thinks the United States is a dictatorship has clearly never lived under one and has never lived in the US. Clearly. Don't cheapen the suffering, pain, and real oppression of others by making ridiculous comparisons.

Correct. And that's also the reason why they've been supporting Saddam and will support any other freak after him (the Kim Jun Il Fan Club must be already painting the signboards), as far the USA are involved in the crisis.

It’s a cheap shot and one of which they’ll never have to take the responsibility.

I bet you know already that we agree on your last point. ;-)

Valerie: Thanks for dropping by. It's always a pleasure to have you and your acumen in the dacha.

Chris: Thanks for caring about France, that's a lesson some should definitely learn better...
That said, France is getting what she deserve and she's digging her own hole by herself.
Don't be too prompt to forget how they treated you because they keep acting the same albeit a bit more quietly, considering that they're too busy right now with the struggle to maintain their privileges and the holidays coming...

Posted by: the dissident frogman | June 10, 2003 10:47 PM

Well in fact it's probably more "the need to preserve the stability - whatever that means - of the region, particularly for the sake of another autocracy: Saudi Arabia"

Sure. But misguided all the same...and I don't know about you, but to me, the phrase "stability in the middle east" is one very large oxymoron. And hopefully, our leaders here are noticing that the Saudis are not our friends.

The US has most definitely made mistakes and bad foreign policy decisions. I'm just relieved that we're fixing this one. I don't know how much you follow the news from over here, but - believe it or not - there are many (what I like to call) pro-Saddam activists who argued that the fact that we are at least partly to blame for Saddam's control of Iraq was a reason not to do anything. No joke. That's the kind of twisted logic that our left uses.

Are there more people like you over there? I'm sure you know that "France" is a very bad word over here just at the moment - which really is too bad.

Maybe we can go back to liking each other again someday...

Posted by: Demosthenes | June 11, 2003 04:34 PM

I don't know about you, but to me, the phrase "stability in the middle east" is one very large oxymoron

He he... Agreed. Hence my "whatever that means".

That's the kind of twisted logic that our left uses.

That's the left's logic as a whole. The left is an international plague that knows no boundaries and no frontier.
I've heard hundreds of nonsense that basically meant "Saddam shouldn't be removed because Kim Jung Il is not".

Are there more people like you over there?

Very few I'm afraid. And most - if not all - intend to get the hell out of here and let this sorry country sink into whatever Socialist tyranny the French are actively building for themselves.

Posted by: the dissident frogman | June 11, 2003 04:46 PM

I will spread around the word about your blog.

Excellent all the way.

Posted by: John Candler | June 11, 2003 05:55 PM

You have a very awesome banner. Shocking and to the point.

Thank you.

Posted by: Thomas P | June 13, 2003 06:11 PM

Bravo! brilliant work, very beautiful and moving. And absolutely spot on.

Thanks for making it available, I just stuck that on my blog too.

The last photo was my favourite of all those from Iraq.

Posted by: zaza | June 20, 2003 05:16 PM

Frogman, a superb banner. I don't run a blog so I downloaded the independent version and will send it to liberal friends of mine.

Valierie wrote: "Saddam was a WMD." That's the most succinct way of expressing our reasons for this year that I've yet heard, and with your permission I will borrow that too.

Posted by: Steve White | June 21, 2003 09:07 PM

The ends do not justify the means. A Lie is a Lie, Frogman, at least it was for Clinton, wasn't it, so apply your self-serving morality evenly and fairly, for once!

Posted by: zogman | July 1, 2003 06:43 PM

What a great banner. I can't believe somebody actually made something that would make me consider putting Flash on my site...

If you have time, you should consider making a printable version (yes, I know it would lose something)... I'd love to put it on my office door.

Posted by: Kim Scarborough | July 1, 2003 07:27 PM

According to the Iraq Body Count website, the WAC (weapons of the allied coalition) have "Collateral(ly) Damage(d)," at minimum, 6071 civilians of a nation of the "Axis." Why? In order to eliminate WMD? Perhaps the answer lies in the ideology of the TDF website. Total Fascist Domination.

Posted by: HS | July 21, 2003 04:51 PM

#21: It's getting boring really... At one point, dismissing logic and reason like you do is so close to utter dumbness that one fails to discern the difference.

It should be easy to understand though. If you want to play with numbers, play with all of them:
- How many Iraqis were killed by Saddam and its regime?
- How many Iraqis would have been killed if Saddam wasn't removed?
- How long would have have Saddam's reign of terror lasted, without the right action from the Coalition, resulting in how many Iraqis killed, without any hope for an end to the nightmare, whatsoever?

You're not going to face these questions and numbers of course. People like you never do.

Guess who's on the side of fascism?

Posted by: the dissident frogman | July 21, 2003 05:48 PM

The war was right, but spare a thought for the international world order that is now in shambles because of it. The intentions were noble, but consider the license it gives to less benevolent states who can now point to precedent to launch an attack based on their own, classified intelligence.

The uproar over WMDs is because the proof of their existence now will retroactively rally the universal support the US, UK and Australia should have gotten before entering the conflict, making the war a legitimate, legal affair in accordance with the world order we once enjoyed. The absence of WMDs gives the thumbs-up to every nation considering a pre-emptive strike "justified" by whatever excuse they care to dream up.

I believe the war was justified. But I still don't support it because the world is not ready to face the consequences of the new world order that is a free-for-all for each and every nation. The horrors of Saddam's regime pale in comparison to an international arena with our new rules - I'm sorry for all the innocents sacrificed (pre and post-war) just for a world where billions more now are unprotected.

Posted by: Caroline | August 12, 2003 06:32 AM

Patience et longueur de temps font plus que force ni que rage...[ la fontaine ]
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Now you know and the whole world knows how wrong the USA /Brit were with their administration about Iraq, and France with Germany were right. SADAM HUSSEN is nothing compared to the devastation created by this gang [Bush & co.] around the world.
The United states became a disgrace to the eyes of the rest of the world thanks to this unqualified unelected President and administration may I add.
I am going to stop right here because there is nothing good to say about this President, and I am tired and sick to read and hear about it. It's a shame when i think of the consequences emanating from this small group of men at the white house , In only 3 years they ruined the reputation and the economy of the country.
Now I wait for November the election day..
A bon entendeur salut....
Albert Lucas february 17, 2004

Posted by: Albert Lucas | February 18, 2004 01:31 AM

Jesus, Albert "la Fontaine"... You must be living in the illusion of a dream from another dimension.

Or just be French maybe?

I'm sorry but this blog does not provide tinfoil hats for the loonies of your kind. I suggest you step back into the Real World, where you will notice the liberation of Iraq, the sudden change of stance of a bunch of rogues states and, who knows, maybe even the soaring economy of the country that's supposed to be ruined (at least in your dream).

It's beginning to be quite urgent: you're already unable to discern between dictators such as Saddam Hussein and the elected rulers of the free world. Soon the only option will be to shoot you down, like a wounded horse.

As for November... Yeah, I'm waiting too. Hehe.

Posted by: the dissident frogman | February 18, 2004 08:20 AM

Portugal (or England, who knows?), surely will be the next target as its government and a small group of braves had the courage of crying loudly against the totalitarian Islamic fundamentalists. Maybe the fuck-them-all sheiks, axaxins and ayatolahs want to cause a good impression into the portuguese Socialist, the Green and the Comunist Parties, to instruct them to claim for a complete withdraw from Irak of our 100 republican guards that went there.
No matter the time when they will act and murder more innocent civilians, we will go ahead with this front anti-Jihad, and no doubt about this: WE NEVER SURRENDER!!!
In the meanwhile just a few words to tell you how we totally approve your articles and admire the lucidity you express on your pages.
My web site anti-Jihad is now linking to you (in portuguese).
http://www.alternativa2000.org/Contraoterrorislamico.html
Greetings
Carlos Torres
Lisbon, Portugal

Posted by: Carlos Torres | March 17, 2004 12:53 PM

I find it absolutely hilarious that the US is taking oil. Not only has Halliburton lost millions of dollars in Iraq, but my gas prices are now at record highs. Did you guys read about those sweet oil deals the UN, France, Germany, Russia, and even some in the UK were getting?

http://brain-terminal.com/articles/world/iraqi-oil-bribes.html
http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20040128-094014-7323r.htm
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/WNT/Investigation/saddam_oil_vouchers_040129.html
http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110004667

Elf Octane, a French government oil company has the largest contracts with Iraq. Who was acting in oil interest? Who was acting against terror? The French think with their pocketbooks and genitals.

I love the Nazi-Bush comparisons. Bush attempts to remove a Hitleresque leader and he's a facist, absolutely hilarious. I think he's coming out with his policy speech to erradicate all Jews this coming week.

No WMD's? It was hard enough to find these things: http://snopes.com/photos/military/sandplanes.asp

Iraq is free. Something the left cannot stand. They don't care about the people, they care about the humiliation of America. Why? Well we saved their ass...to tell you the truth, I can't think of a time where France saved our ass. (Don't bring up the revolution, because the French did next to nothing.)

I love your site. Whenever I talk about the French I cringe. Perhaps an articulate Frenchman such as yourself could help me realize there are rare breeds of intelectuals in France. Thank you. I promise never to say that all the French are stinky again!

Adios, (Screw off, I live next to Mexico)

Dylan

Posted by: Dylan | March 30, 2004 05:04 AM