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I just about spit out my rice krispies when I saw this fantastic Che Guevera / Mickey Mouse logo design by graphic artist par excellence the dissident frogman. I was dismayed that cafepress pulled the design for fear of copyright... [Read More]
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» MiChe Mouse from the dissident frogman's Propaganda Bureau
If everything goes well, you'll probably begin to see this button around pretty soon. So before you start asking: Yes, it's me, No, the tee is not real, it's photo edited, but... Yes, now you can have one anyway (Well... [Read More]
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I was curious to know who could have possibly asked for copyright protection...
Social justice, si. Vodka advertisements, no.
The Cuban photographer who snapped a famous picture of Che Guevara has won copyright protection for the image from a British court as part of a financial settlement with companies that had used it in an ad for Smirnoff vodka, his lawyers said Friday.
Throughout the years, photographer Alberto Diaz Gutierrez, who goes by the professional name Alberto Korda, never made any money from the use of his famous picture. His motives in bringing the lawsuit were not financial, he said.
"As a supporter of the ideals for which Che Guevara died, I am not averse to its reproduction by those who wish to propagate his memory and the cause of social justice throughout the world," he said. "But I am categorically against the exploitation of Che's image for the promotion of products such as alcohol, or for any purpose that denigrates the reputation of Che."
The article: http://edition.cnn.com/2000/WORLD/europe/09/16/cheguevaraphoto.ap/
Ain't this surrealistic? Sorry :(
Posted by:
Carine |
June 20, 2003 05:50 PM
I think your idea was fantastic, but am not surprised you received such notice about Mickey and Che. If I drive about an hour from my home everything under the sun is in the shape of mouse ears. As for Che - I saw someone driving with a Che picture sticker on the rear of their car a couple of months ago. I thought... hmmm someone from the Ayn Rand Institute needs to come up with a good sticker I can add to my vehicle if I want as well.
Once again, good try! Keep up the use of an excellent imagination! :)
Posted by:
Elizabeth |
June 20, 2003 05:58 PM
Carine: interesting anyway.
That said:
- My “Che” is different from Mr Gutierrez's “Che”.
- Even if it wasn't and although I wouldn't deny Mr Gutierrez's rights on his own work... Geez, Guevara was nothing but an international terrorist (Cuba, Algeria, Congo - Hello Kabila - Bolivia...), child killer (among his own troop of guerillas, 1956 if I'm not mistaking), he is the one (not Castro, at least according to the infamous Regis Debray) who "invented" the "corrective work camps" (that is "forced labor" in any decent person’s language) in 1960, Guanaha peninsula, but also totally ruined Cuba's Central Bank (Communist specialty: give the ministry of economy to an economy ignoramus), despised money BUT lived in La Havana's posh neighborhood, etc, etc... No matter what the international Communist propaganda tried to feed us with.
So I have a hard time believing that Mr Gutierrez would have any other reason - besides ideology - to "defend" his rights over El Fascist's face.
Posted by:
the dissident frogman |
June 20, 2003 06:16 PM
CafePress sent me an e-mail telling me my order had shipped. So I shall get it (I cross my fingers). Is there any chance they sell it again ? If not, my T-shirt's gonna be a collector! (and, of course, I'll be sad no one else can get it anymore, but, you know, I'm an incorrigible individualist...)
Posted by:
LeP |
June 20, 2003 06:17 PM
I confirm. Extremely limited serie, less than ten.
Keep it in formaldehyde solution or something.
And in a vault somewhere in Swiss.
There aren't many and there won't be any other.
Unless somebody steals the source file from me and goes black market, of course.
Posted by:
the dissident frogman |
June 20, 2003 06:29 PM
Yuk Yuk Yuk (That's Goofy chortling)
Go to www.cafepress.com
Click "Go Shopping"
Try the new beta search with... say... "Guevara"
I do agree with this one's massage for instance (No Che!) but this:
AIBFB Revolutionshop
An (apparently) German shop when you can get T-Shirts and teddy Bear "I love Osama" alongside "Roter Oktober" (Red October in German if I'm not mistaking) mousepads?
And you've got to love the fact that a search with "Guevara" sends back a "Palestinian Flag - Anti Israel Store"...
After all, Cubans and Palestinians had a great deal of "Fun" murdering around in Nicaragua with the Sandinistas...
Posted by:
the dissident frogman |
June 20, 2003 06:47 PM
OH MY GOD! They promote hatred but they're having a problem with a possible copyright infringement about a murderer's pic?!?
Among other trendy tee-shirts I noticed these days on several Parisians: red tee-shirts with, you guessed right, the hammer and sickle and C.C.C.P. written on it...
All of this stupidity is enough to drive me to despair.
Posted by:
Carine |
June 20, 2003 07:00 PM
I'm not that surprised.
There's also a big laudatory exhibition dedicated to El Che, organized by Paris town hall, at this very moment.
It does not drive me to despair though.
One day, these history-retarded people will get what they apparently worship in a so inconsistent manner.
That day, as far as I’ll have the people I care for - yeah, that includes you Carine ;) - and myself safe abroad, I’ll take great pleasure in turning back and laugh at France.
If not abroad, the remaining option will be “rifle and resistance” I guess.
Posted by:
the dissident frogman |
June 20, 2003 07:14 PM
they shouldnt have copyright problem with such a shirt, it falls into parody since your not copying the exact che the commie bastard image or the whole of mickey mouse earse then its parody and legal
Posted by:
Cliff |
June 20, 2003 07:15 PM
I have always lived uncomfortably close to the original "Land of THE MOUSE - Happiest Place On Earth - Just Hand Us Your Wallet On The Way In - Oh, and Your Soul, Too" amusement park, and I am not at all surprised about their objection. Just surprised that it took longer than a nanosecond to arrive. After all, you said nothing about their "cut" and it is ALL ABOUT PROFIT! See the error of your ways and offer to cough up 87% on the gross, and maybe they will play ball.
Posted by:
Cinders |
June 20, 2003 07:19 PM
Cliff: that's interesting, really.
Just wondering: any chance you'd be a lawyer?
If not, IS THERE ANY LAWYER IN THE AUDIENCE?
Seriously, I guess you're right Cliff but I'm afraid CafePress is calling the shots here...
Darn! Abdul must be a Communist or a Steambot Willie nostalgic.
Or both.
Oh, the horror.
Posted by:
the dissident frogman |
June 20, 2003 07:21 PM
Cinders: You think they'll be happy with 87% of the 2 bucks I make on a Tee?
Worth a try ;)
Posted by:
the dissident frogman |
June 20, 2003 07:23 PM
Every street festival I go to, most recently the Hispanic festival in San Diego, has multiple vendors selling Che Guava crap. I'm pretty sure someone out there will print up your shirts. Disney would probably be the biggest hurdle (voracious legal department especially when it comes to the mouse) so go with my other idea of putting the fruit in cross hairs with a nice caption . . . or maybe a dunce cap . . . or a beanie with propeller.
Posted by:
lardog |
June 20, 2003 10:01 PM
Man, I dig that beanie with propeller idea. I'll think about that.
Posted by:
the dissident frogman |
June 20, 2003 10:41 PM
It is conceivable that such parody or satire may be covered under the "fair use" provisions of the Copyright act of 1976 (see http://rwright.manoogian.wayne.edu/FPC5020/06%2Ffaircomment.html ).
I want my t-shirt.
Posted by:
Mark |
June 20, 2003 10:57 PM
Votre plaidoyer e_s_t que...
Merci,
Super défense.
Posted by:
Sophie |
June 21, 2003 09:37 PM
Loin de moi l'idée vouloir m'opposer à quelqun dont la culture politique et sociale atteind des sommets (je ne suis après tout qu'un pauvre doctorant en biologie ), et sans prendre partie pour le Che, il me semble que ce dernier n'a jamais été un fan de Kabila, et même dit "Avec des dirigeants tel que KAbila, l'Afrique n'est pas prete de s'en sortir"(ou quelque chose d'approchant). Et celà, même si il est tout à fait vrai que le medecin argentin avait été envoyé en Afrique pour organiser la "révolution". (désolé si je n'arrive pas à remettre la main sur mes références, mais j'y travaille)
Bonne continuation dissident, votre site me donne la pêche tous les matins !
Un autre de ces cybernoïdes francais ^^
Posted by:
Fabien le breizhou |
June 23, 2003 08:38 AM
désolé pour les fautes !
le même boulet que le message précedent, qui lui n'a pas atteint les sommets de la langue francaise
Posted by:
oups |
June 23, 2003 08:51 AM
Je reprends la question posée plus haut : est-on sûrs que, juridiquement et plus précisément pénalement, cafeshops a bel et bien raison ?
Permettez-moi d'en douter quelque peu..
Posted by:
Catallaxia |
July 25, 2003 09:03 AM
Catallaxia: Peut-être, peut-être pas, je n'ai pas les compétences requises pour en juger. Cela dit:
- Je peux comprendre qu'ils n'aient pas envie de prendre le risque. Après tout, ils sont en première ligne.
- Ma marge sur les produits vendus étant d'à peine 2 US$ par produit, il serait contre productif d'engager une quelconque démarche.
- Coïncidence : je suis un peu occupé ces jours ci, mais je venais de prendre la décision de distribuer la version haute définition de l'image, dans un prochain post au Bureau de la Propagande, afin que tout le monde et son grand frère puissent s'imprimer leurs tee-shirts "à la maison".
N'importe quelle imprimante jet d'encre et un fer à repasser feront l'affaire.
Posted by:
the dissident frogman |
July 25, 2003 09:37 AM
Is there any way to get an even higher resolution JPG or GIF for printing to an iron-on transfer? OR to publish to image in PDF, PS, or AI formats?
This is being perfectionistic, I realize, but if the image exists in some sort of vector format, it should be perfectly scalable or convertable. And Michey deserves it--in the name of all the is good and true or proletarian.
Posted by:
John |
November 24, 2004 03:05 PM
salut...
moi j'avais l'idée de me faire quelques t-shirts du "shit" guevara... avec un gros cigar cubain en forme de crote... j'avais envie d'acheter quelques unes de tes t-shirts pour les offrir à mes collegues qui me regardent d'une façon tres bizarre quand je dis que mes idoles ne sont pas des tueurs (pour moi c'est la même merde... bush, binladen, che, mao... ou sera que la merde change selon le regarde du wc?...)
mais le linkl ne marche plus...
bon en fait... ça me fait plaisir qu'aille qq'un d'autre qui s'amuse avec ce type de jeux des mots!
Posted by:
dann |
May 24, 2005 06:49 PM
Disney is stuck by the law here. If they don't go after every user of one of their copyrighted images, that image can pass into the public domain because they obviously didn't consider it important enough to protect. Therefore, they absolutely have to go after every user of their images. The press knows this, but they still enjoy twitting Disney every time it happens. I have no great love for the Disney, but have to admit they are actually following the intent of the law. Heck, they would probably save money if the law allowed them to overlook really minor infringers without risk of losing their intellectual property rights. That army of lawyers they have to maintain couldn't be cheap.
Posted by:
Dave |
July 17, 2005 06:48 AM
