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July 22, 2003

Too Fast • Trop Vite

Fired from France by the dissident frogman

Well done guys although I suspect it wasn't as slow and unpleasant for these two torturer bastards as I wished it was.

May I suggest hanging the son's carcasses in the streets now, so the Iraqis can have a go with their shoes as they did with the father's statues?
UPDATE:
Yes, indeed:
« The insurgency against U.S. forces has since been led by Baath Party survivors, including the sons, who want to restore their dictatorship. And after 35 years of murder and torture, many Iraqis simply won't believe that Saddam's day is done until they know that he and his sons are killed or captured. Lieutenant General Ricardo Sanchez, head of U.S. forces in Iraq, will have to show the bodies far and wide to prove they really are dead. »
Bravo les gars, même si je crains que cela n'ait pas été aussi lent et désagréable pour ces deux bâtards de tortionnaires que je l'aurai souhaité.

Puis-je suggérer d'accrocher les carcasses des fils dans les rues maintenant, afin que les irakiens puissent y aller de la savate comme ils l'ont fait avec les statues du père ?
MISE A JOUR :
Oui, en effet:
« L'insurrection contre les forces US a depuis (ntdf: la chute de Saddam) été menée par les survivants du parti Baath, y compris les fils, qui veulent rétablir leur dictature. Et après 35 ans de meurtres et de tortures, de nombreux irakiens ne croiront simplement pas que l'ère de Saddam est terminée jusqu'à ce qu'ils ne les aient vu lui et ses fils tués ou capturés. Le Lieutenant Général Ricardo Sanchez, chef des forces U.S. en Irak, aura à montrer les corps en long et en large afin de prouver qu'ils sont bien morts. »

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Comments

Hang these two bastards by their ankles in the middle of Baghdad for three weeks. To show the world you can hide but you can't run.

Posted by: AzTex | July 23, 2003 12:44 AM

Grrrrreat ! Some blood to ease the poor minded soul... Beati paupere spiritum

Posted by: mathieu | July 23, 2003 09:50 AM

Dans peu de temps l'ami Saddam va se faire avoir aussi et la on sabre le champagne .

In a few time the friend Saddam go shut down too , and we going, may be drink a Champagne ( don Perignon for me :) )

Veni, vidi , vinci by Caius Julius....................

Posted by: Fred | July 23, 2003 10:20 AM

#2: Thanks a lot. I was in the need for another patented French apologist to mourn the loss of dictators and torturers.

By the way, I think you meant "Beati pauperes spiritu", not "Beati paupere spiritum".

It's not because Latin is not spoken anymore that you shouldn't care about spelling and grammar.
And we could talk about semantics as well. Judging by the context where you choose to use it, I'd say you're mistaking on the exact meaning.

Okay, my turn with Latin for you: Oleum perdidisti

Posted by: the dissident frogman | July 23, 2003 10:53 AM

Une nouvelle positive et même réconfortante.
Plus encore que la mort de ces deux lascars, ce dont il faut se réjouir c'est des mouvements de joie qui ont eu lieu dans plusieurs villes du pays.

Posted by: Fabrice Ribet | July 23, 2003 11:49 AM

"Blessed are the morons" would be more applicable to the left, I agree.

As an aside, all this "why not capture them alive" scum disgusts me. As If capturing them alive was worth risking a single american life.

Posted by: Dog of Flanders | July 23, 2003 01:30 PM

I am not mourning anything, nor anyone. Ok I suck at latin.
I am just saying that this kind of expeditive justice is weird. Why not arrest them, judge them, and whatever... kill them after, i don't really give a fuck. Where are the bodys ? Don't you think it's weird to have some kind of blitz-success in such a period of difficulties on the ground ?
Don't fall in that stupid mainstream media attitude. I am absolutely not on your political side, but I think you and i can equally see where is the truth and were are the lies.

Posted by: mathieu | July 23, 2003 02:05 PM

I'm always a bit bemused by the unspoken assumption that the US can do anything it wants, any time, and so all complex things are really easy & the US should always do them perfectly (as the commentator sees perfect). What a childish (literally) assumption!

What happened yesterday was not epeditive justice, at least not as the intent of the US forces. What happened was a military encounter with defeated generals who, having commited known atrocities in the past, tried to kill a few more people before their own deaths.

Reports are that the 7 or 8 people in that villa had barricaded themselves in a heavily armed / heavily armored / pre-prepared room, refused any overtures to talk or surrender and initiated a very heavy barrage of small arms fire at the party that first approached the villa. Interviews with Iraqis who live in the neighborhood corroborate that account. In my opinion, based on limited facts but on a fair degree of familiarity with both military history and tactics, the chances that these men COULD have been taken alive were very small. Just how many Iraqi and American lives should have been lost to their indiscriminate barrage of bullets on the slight chance they could a) BE taken alive after, say, a long seige and b) actually provide any useful information?

Posted by: rkb | July 23, 2003 02:22 PM

rkb: I think you answered Mr "Okay-I-suck-in-Latin" better and more than it was needed. Thank you.

Also, please accept my respect and cordial salutation.

You know why, right?

Posted by: the dissident frogman | July 23, 2003 03:26 PM

in reply to mathieu.

1) How did you get the idea that this was some kind of law enforcement issue? expeditive justice? Oh please.


2) The sudden and unexpected success you have just seen will come to you as a shock BECAUSE you have been listening to the "Quagmire" crowd over at the press club. I'm sure this is a shock to them as well just as every other success has been.

Posted by: Stan | July 23, 2003 05:09 PM

Stan:

"(...) you have been listening to the "Quagmire" crowd over at the press club"

Indeed.
That's particulary true in the case of the French press.
They've been consistently ignoring and/or minimizing the Coalition's successes, ever since the first Humvee set the first wheel in the Iraqi desert, while at the same time making a mountain out of any dune of the aforementioned desert.

Remember the Iraqi Ministry of Information? Well, he's an amateur compared to Le Monde or Liberation.

The main difference is that he was, at least, involuntarily funny.

Posted by: the dissident frogman | July 23, 2003 05:26 PM

Absolutely , since the begun of Gulf war, the french press , minimizes the coalitions actions , but a kills of soldiers is a first international news of TF1 or France 2 ,is a very little.

The work of journalist is a present the news with a maximum neutrality , but the intelligentsia ( french press , politic press , and assimilates ) don't respect this rules, for me they aren't a true journalists .

In fact i decide to listen or see a several americans informations channels , and i compare this informations with a french information .

When i compare this informations , the presentation is very different and the comments too............

Posted by: Fred | July 24, 2003 11:52 AM

Latin...YES! As a language maven myself, I find the Latin language very wonderful. Without good Latin, one is a barbarian.

Posted by: Caleb | July 25, 2003 05:18 AM