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November 03, 2004

Let's Be Consistent • Soyons Cohérents

Fired from France by the dissident frogman

A couple of days ago, Le Figaro (a purportedly right-wing publication that in practice shows little difference, if any, with the rest of the monocellular magma the French call their "press") had the results of a poll it commissioned online, in its special section devoted to the United States 2004 elections.

That poll disappeared since - and frankly, I couldn't be bothered to dig through El Figaro's pile of Common Bullshit About the USA to find it back - but it doesn't matter really. Quoting from memory, it went more or less like this:
« US Elections: the French have voted!
Asked who they would elect if they were to vote in the US election, 71% of the French choose Kerry over 17% for Bush »
My guess is that among the remaining 12%, you would find people who picked Le Général de Gaulle (they always do), and some who mumbled "Faites chier with your putain d'elections merde alors!" before plunging a big red nose back in a snifter of big red wine.

Though that's just a guess.

Now for the sake of the argument and to further extend the pleasure of this return to the dacha -- and to what's possibly left of my honored readership -- we shall assume that somebody, somewhere between, say, Pandale, Texas and NGC133, Cassiopeia really gives a flying burrito about what the French think or which US president they would vote for if somebody came up with the preposterous idea of asking them (yeah, just like El Figaroso did).

Pray.tell.what's.the.damn.news.here?

Of course a majority of the French would elect Kerry. The surprise here is the 17% for Bush since the French usually make sure they have either a Socialist or a Populist as second choice.

17% for a decent man is therefore not a bad score at all.

Heck, our Communists themselves (that is to say the orthodox ones, those who are officially endorsed by the pustular carcass of the Comintern) can't even dream about 17% in a presidential race anymore: the other variants of French Socialism (red, green and brown) took that away from them.

Look at the last time the French were indeed called to elect a president: they got the undercover Trotskyite torpedo out of the way presto and managed to get their big red noses stuck in a nice and dandy choice between a right wing Socialist and a full-blown corrupted arriviste. Eventually, they chose the corrupted arriviste with just about the same overwhelming majority.

It's such a tradition among the French.

82% for Chirac. 71% for Kerry. That's what I call being consistent, although all it means is that a French vote is only representative of the French's taste for the rule by the corrupted, the thieves and the liars.
Il y a quelques jours, Le Figaro (une publication censément de droite qui dans la pratique ne présente que peu - sinon pas - de différence avec le reste du magma monocellulaire que les français appellent leur "presse") mettait en ligne les résultats d'un sondage qu'il avait commandé pour les besoins de sa section spéciale Etats Unis 2004.

Ce sondage a disparu depuis - et franchement, j'ai autre chose à foutre que de creuser parmi la pile de Conneries Communes Sur Le Sujet des USA pour le retrouver - mais cela n'a guère d'importance. Citant de mémoire, cela faisait plus ou moins comme ça :
« Elections US : les français ont voté !
Interrogés sur leur choix s'ils devaient voter aux élections américaines, 71% des français choisissent Kerry contre 17% pour Bush »
Mon idée est que parmi les 12% restant, vous pourriez trouver des gens qui choisissent Le Général de Gaulle (ils le font toujours), et d'autres qui ont marmonné "Faites chier avec vos putain d'élections merde alors !" avant de replonger un gros nez rouge dans un ballon de gros rouge.

Mais c'est juste une estimation.

Cela étant, pour le bénéfice de la discussion et pour étendre le plaisir de ce retour en la dacha -- et vers ce qu'il peut rester de mon honoré lectorat -- nous allons considérer que quelqu'un, quelque part entre, disons, Pandale, Texas et NGC133, Cassiopée se soucie vraiment de ce que les français peuvent bien penser ou du président US pour qui ils voteraient si seulement quelqu'un formulait l'idée grotesque d'aller le leur demander (ouais, ainsi qu' Al Figaro vient précisément de le faire).

En.quoi.est.ce.une.fichue.surprise ?

Bien entendu une majorité de français éliraient Kerry. Le plus étonnant ici, ce sont les 17% pour Bush, puisque ordinairement les français s'arrangent pour avoir soi un socialiste soit un populiste comme second choix.

17% pour un honnête homme, ce n'est donc pas un si mauvais score.

Bigre, nos Communistes eux mêmes (c'est à dire les orthodoxes, ceux qui sont dûment approuvés par la carcasse pustuleuse du Comintern) ne peuvent même plus rêver de faire 17% dans une élection présidentielle : les autres variantes de socialisme français (rouge, vert et brun) leur ont même pris ça.

Il suffit d'observer la dernière occasion lors de laquelle les français ont été effectivement appelés à voter : ils ont écarté la torpille trotskyste et se sont arrangés pour se coincer le gros nez rouge dans un coquet petit choix entre un socialiste de droite et un arriviste corrompu pur jus. Au final, ils ont choisi l'arriviste corrompu, dans le même élan majoritaire.

C'est là une telle tradition française.

82% pour Chirac. 71% pour Kerry. C'est ce que j'appelle de la cohérence, même si tout ce que cela signifie c'est qu'un vote français n'est représentatif de rien d'autre que du goût desdits français pour le gouvernement par les corrompus, les voleurs et les menteurs.

Comments

Thank goodness Americans live in America and the French live in France.

Posted by: Valerie | November 3, 2004 04:11 AM

"French vote is only representative of the French's taste for the rule by the corrupted, the thieves and the liars." Merci bien, crapaud dissident.
I might still that one! Ca, je vais probablement vous le piquer!

Posted by: Diane | November 3, 2004 04:37 AM

Frog-mec - you're still alive. Good. I'm psyched that nearly 20% of your countrymen would choose bush. Maybe I can return to France after Bush wins again. sera bien. M

Posted by: Matt | November 3, 2004 04:45 AM

What they lack in brains and morailty they more than make up for in ego.

My question is: Do they really think we care what they think??? Good God, if their thinking was in line with ours, I'd question ours!

Thank God I'm an American. This is what I find myself saying over and over everytime I visit the EUSSR...
God Bless America and God Save the Queen!

Posted by: Tonya | November 3, 2004 05:22 AM

311340
Thank you for reminding me to check in with you again.
Here's my take on today, and my TV is still off at 10:05 PM
MY TV IS SILENT
BY HOWARD E. MORSEBURG

I'm sitting here and just typing away,
I've had my TV off for the whole day.
I'm so tired of all the analysts
That I'd rather have a butt full of cysts!
They guess and predict, they pontificate,
While I sit there and just gesticulate,
The middle finger sticks out from my right hand,
My opinion's quite clear, you understand.
Not a thing they can say can change what's done;
When the votes are counted, we'll know who won.
When the voting's over, the winner named,
I'm not going to say that I've been gamed.
For four years that man is our President,
Them's the rules of the game, that's evident.
We've all lost before and it ain't no crime;;
Remember, just work harder the next time.

copyright 2004 Howard E. Morseburg

www.howardsviews.com

Posted by: Howard e | November 3, 2004 06:11 AM

Bonjour Monsieur, vous avez gardé ces derniers temps un silence inquiétant. On aurait pu croire que vous étiez parti! Ces sondages sont le reflet d'un état d'esprit bien franchouillard: vindicatif et revanchard . Parce que les choix politiques qui nous sont imposés nous font sans cesse reculer, nos médias politiquement subventionnés tentent toujours de nous faire croire que les perdants ont raison. Zek dira simplement que la victoire de Bush, si elle a lieu, n'aura rien d'historique....
Cordialement / Lola

Posted by: lola | November 3, 2004 07:56 AM

17% for le pen = 17% for bush... beware we might come to take back our statue of liberty my friend!

F.R.N. (fuck red necks)

Posted by: UN | November 3, 2004 08:17 AM

"17% for le pen = 17% for bush..."

Not quite.

17% = 17%, yes. For the rest, you're making the mistake of assuming that the people who voted for Le Pen would vote for Bush.
Although that certainly is a Leftist's fantasy, one look at Le Pen's National Front is enough to demonstrate how inappropriate the comparison is. We're talking about anti-capitalist, anti-American nationalist morons, folks who had champagne in front of their TV on 9/11 while their 'great leader' always praised himself on being a close friend of Saddam Hussein and boisterously opposed both Gulf wars.

His electorate is a bitch for France's grandeur and sees anything American - particularly a proactive America - as a threat.

Posted by: the dissident frogman | November 3, 2004 09:24 AM

Any one else awake in the US? lol I went to sleep at uh, midnight, deciding this time the dye had been cast, an ill just sleep an see the election results when i wake up.

Wasn't going to repeat 2000 when i stayed awake for almost 40 hours, then slept a few, stayed awake a few, and so on, for nearly a month.

So I awaken, and some say the results are obvious, others say wait until all votes are counted.

I guess it's all down to the State of Ohio, and those all important 20 elector-votes.

mail-ins not counted from the military and other overseas americans, some who are probably hidding in france researching why chirac and arafat seem so cosey.

oh-well, we'll see I suppose. Not going to drive myself nuts this time. I'm trying to just be an observer, and not so much of a political-junkie during election times each few years. Vote and forget it, and wait. My new motto lol

Oh, a bit of sad news. I didnt know of him actually, now I wish I had sooner. "... Theo Van Gogh, the Dutch Filmmaker Who Criticized Islam, Shot and Stabbed to Death in Amsterdam ..."

www.indexonline.org/news/20041102_netherlands.shtml
www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000085&sid=amnOCiDuodH0&refer=europe

If you have "edonkey" or "emule" (P2P) search for "Submission Gogh" video files, and you'll see his last work that caused all the problems, and his death. It's a short story only 10 mins. I found it yesterday on emule. He was very talented, wish he had lived a longtime, he really did have a way of telling a story he felt had to be told, whether people wanted to listen or not. Remarkable humanbeing, murdered by an animal his own country allowed to enter the country an treat as though he was civilized.

Posted by: bill k | November 3, 2004 12:16 PM

I live in Ohio. I voted for Bush. I boycott French products and companies. I don't give a rat's behind what the French think of our election, although 17% may actually have some brain cells, and I would commend them for that. Putin even supported Bush. Maybe France needs their own 9/11 to get their aristocratic heads out of their socialistic arses.

Posted by: Julie | November 3, 2004 02:41 PM

I live in Paris and even though I stayed up all night I really felt great today at my office when I saw the long faces of all my colleagues.
Now I will go home and celebrate (a cold bottle of champagne is waiting for me just for this occasion!)

Posted by: Maryse | November 3, 2004 05:47 PM

Article rude, mais ça fait du bien

:o)

J'écoutais mes collègues Français aujourd'hui commenter l'élection :
- Les Américains votent pour eux, c'est normal. De toute façon, ils n'ont aucune idée de ce qu'est la politique étrangère (ndlr : ce sont eux qui la mènent depuis un sacré bon bout de temps...).

- Voter Bush, c'est de la provocation ! Il y aura évidemment davantage de terrorisme... Ils sont cons, quand même, les Américains ! (ndlr : mon dieu, pitié, retirez-leurs leur droit de vote !...).

- Il faut être naif comme un Américain pour... (ndlr : ... et être prétentieux comme un Français pour...)

- Excuse-moi, mais leurs élections magouillées, là, c'est digne d'un pays du tiers-monde... C'est tout sauf de la démocratie. (ndlr : mais retirez-le leurs !)

- Bush est un homme intelligent qui arrive à paraître imbécile pour mieux tromper son peuple. (ndlr : Chirac, c'est l'inverse.)

Bon, j'arrête là. Journée pénible, sans farce.
J'ai le sentiment que cette petite victoire-là servira à tous.
Même aux Français.

Merci pour votre excellent site !

Posted by: Sylvain Rodrigue | November 3, 2004 07:45 PM

It's 4 o'clock of the day after, here on the left coast of America.
Mr. Kerry has conceeded. Mr Edwards, Rather, Jennings, Brocaw, Matthews, and Ms Curric have not.
Poor dears have the same credibility as 71% of the French electorate, only werse. The Frenchmen know their vote don't mean diddly. Our Media airheads haven't caught on to that fact yet.

Posted by: Papertiger | November 4, 2004 12:19 AM

Hi!

It's just a grand day to be alive. Republicans have jobs, so we've all been at work today, a little sleepy, a little slow-moving, but at work. But every sympathiser we see, or speak to on the phone, is our long lost brother. We have four hard years ahead, but, we won this test of courage. We feel we can do anything. Thanks for being a good friend to liberty and Liberalism.

Michael Adams

Posted by: Michael Adams | November 4, 2004 02:57 AM

I am thrilled that I can enjoy the twin pleasures of a faith restoring victory in the US elections and a faith restoring return of The Dissident Frogman!! I hope you know how much you mean to your friends and fans.
Tim

Posted by: TBinStLouis | November 4, 2004 05:26 PM

Ahhh and my (French Canadian)grandmother always said the French of Europe simply not good people...the older I get the more wise I saw she was...(and why her father boogied out of France back in the 1880s)

Posted by: Chuck | November 5, 2004 01:35 AM

The Frogman is free! Apparently, seeing that Bush had won reelection, your eeeeeevil captors decided not to face the superior forces of the United States Military.

Welcome back. We're glad to have you among the 17%.

Posted by: Nightfly | November 5, 2004 03:26 PM

To UN, who's threatening to take back the Statue. All I have to say is: Bring. It. On.

Personally, I would love to set up a fund to bring our soldiers home. France is no longer an ally. :(. But for some strange reason the president must still have hope for France.

Posted by: Mary in Ohio | November 6, 2004 11:23 AM